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showagon

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Posted: November 25, 2007 at 11:33 PM / IP Logged

i have a 94 taurus wagon (auto) and i got all the big remote start wires hooked up but im having trouble with the safty feature bits.

plug 3 has all the safety switch bits on it, when i don't have it plugged in the car will start but the starter stays on to long.

i connected the door trigger (+) to what i am 99% sure is the correct wire (it 'generates' 12 volt when the door is open and 0 volt when door is closed) however when i try to start it blinks at me indicating my door is open, when it is not, i have tried connecting the (-) door open input but that didn't help either.

what do i need to do?

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Posted: November 26, 2007 at 10:18 AM / IP Logged

will the car start if you just disconnect the door pin wire?

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showagon

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Posted: November 26, 2007 at 11:58 AM / IP Logged

no it won't; if i have the 3rd connector plugged in even with nothing connected to the door sensor it wont start and gives the door open warning. on the same 3rd connector i have the alt sense wire and the horn relay, whenever this connector is unplugged it will start but as i said the starter stays on to long.

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Posted: November 26, 2007 at 12:43 PM / IP Logged

Did you cut the jumper to indicate to the brain that it is an automatic tranny?

The CN3 connector does not have the horn output wire .. are you confusing this with the hood wire?

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showagon

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Posted: November 26, 2007 at 4:28 PM / IP Logged

no you are right, i was just trying to remebr off the top of my head, the horn is the white wire on one of the other connectors, and yes i did cut the wire, and i took the jumper thing out completely. and switched both dip switches off.

as an added note this is the first time i have ever done something like this, and it is turning out to be more of a challenge than i was initially expecting. i have not yet got anythign else to work, but am in the midst of playing with relays. (i don't know where to find them in toronto :( or at least the right one)

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Posted: November 26, 2007 at 7:03 PM / IP Logged

So apparently your getting an error code. Explain again what error code you see. Your door trigger shouldn't be a problem in order to start the vehicle unless its a manual transmission. But you stated that it's an auto. So whats the error code. You will see three flashes first and then count. word

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showagon

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Posted: November 27, 2007 at 12:29 PM / IP Logged

ok, well i didn't exactly read the manual i only looked at the pictures, so now it turns out that me real problem is that the unit thinks the engine is on when it isn't, it flashes once. i measured the tan / YELLOW one (this is the wire everythign says should work) and i get 12 volts out of it when the key is on, i do get 14 when the car starts but the unit thinks the car is on if the initial voltage i over 12, should i jsut use resistors or something to drop it down a bit?

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Posted: November 27, 2007 at 1:01 PM / IP Logged

for auto tranny, you dont need door trigger wire hooked up. On cn3 ... all you need is hood pin, brake and alt/tach inputs. Obviously you had your rs set up for alt sensing. you are right it wouldn't allow it to start b/c it thought the car was already running. For the alt sensing you need to find a wire that only read 1 to 6 volt when the ign sw was turned on. when the car is started it should read 9 to 14 volts. If you can't locate this wire, it is better to set the rs for tach sensing, which requires you to reconnect the yellow/black wire on cn3 -9 to the dk.GREEN/ YELLOW wire at the ignition coil. Also you have to change the dip sw 1 to ON. Remember to do a tach learn if you use the tach wire, start the car while it is running, press the small button on the side of the brain, parklight should flash once the tach is learned.

showagon

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Posted: November 27, 2007 at 1:54 PM / IP Logged

thank you moonlighter, i have gotten it working 'properly'

however, i have never used one of these things before and their are a few things striking me as odd, first is that once it starts, the running/parking lights flash 2 times and then turn on indefinatly, i can not shut them off and usually do not have them on during the day (ie the manual switch i never use) also is the only way to shut the car off with the remote again? becasue when i then put the key and turn it on and then turn it off again the car stays on. ma

when i start the car normally with the key i have control over not turning on my running lights aswell as being able to shut it off normally, maybe the above mentioned is normal im just not used to it.

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Posted: November 27, 2007 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged

Parklights stayed on after car is started, which is very normal. That is the visual confirmation that the car is running.

After you put the key in, did you press the brake ? Which supposed to cancel the remote starter and let the car takes over. If you take the key out then the car should stop. Brake input (+) is absolutely required to be hookep up.

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