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s10rider07 
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Posted: March 02, 2011 at 5:18 AM / IP Logged  
Ok, here's the info: 92 Honda Accord. The ignition key cylinder will only let the car run if i hold the key in between the run & start position. I have found the constant 12V wire(white), the accessory wire(blower motor: solid yellow), the ignition wire is black with a yellow stripe.
I can start the car with the key so the only thing i need to do is to use a toggle & a relay to keep the car running. I seriously need a discription or a diagram of how i should wire the toggle to keep my car running. Please help....
Thank you.
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oldspark 
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Posted: March 02, 2011 at 6:44 AM / IP Logged  
I suggest you fix the key-switch.
It is worn and needs replacing.
Otherwise a separate switch that controls a relay (but not anybody that wants to steal it).
howie ll 
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Change the key switch.
Else white to yellow and WHITE/ black for acc constant then constant white to BLACK / YELLOW for acc and ign, then momentary from white to BLACK/ white for start.
As I said change the ign switch!
s10rider07 
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I dont have enough money for a new ignition switch, ive gotta scrape by just to get 1 of my three bad tires replaced. But i do have relays & toggle switches hanging around my garage, & trust me no1 is stealing this car. So in order for me to just put my car in the run position, i need to re-run every wire? Tht doesnt make much sence
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howie ll 
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Work this out:-
12V+ Constant Input WHITE
ACC x 2 YELLOW and WHITE/ BLACK
IGN. BLACK YELLOW
STARTER BLACK/ WHITE
Throw a switch for the ACC x 2,
Throw a switch for the ignition,
Momentary switch for the starter at the same time cutting out the two x acc wires, use a 5 pin relay for that function.
oldspark 
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Posted: March 02, 2011 at 3:40 PM / IP Logged  
You can probably just run a wire from the battery +12V to ignition coil's +12V (side of its ballast if fitted).
Otherwise all you need is to connect B/Y to W at the Ign Switch - with copious current capacity of course.
[Sorry Howard, I have spooned yet again... But that won't provide the entertainment (ie, Acc).]
PS - I hope someone does steel it - that might prevent this info contributing you your accident.
s10rider07 
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Ok, the car will start by the ignition, & will run if the key is held by hand in the start run position. i need to find a way to flip a toggle, turn the key to start the engine & have the engine running from the 1 toggle switch being turned on (i.e. ignition II spot on the ignition) then when i need to cut the engine off, just turn the switch off.
i just need a switch to mimic the key being in the run position. ( A ignition run switch)
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howie ll 
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Posted: March 02, 2011 at 4:26 PM / IP Logged  
This is so wrong in so many ways.
The start/run is a sprung loaded momentary switch, the others are all constant except when that is engaged when the yellow and WHITE/ black are disengaged.
Could our poster simply meter or even a 12volt test light and tell me what powers up when?
There's got to be a simpler answer. This is going to be a clusterfudge otherwise.
Don't you love it when I invent new words Oldie?
howie ll 
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I want to know what happens when you turn to ignition, does the BLACK / YELLOW stay live? It should also stay live along with the BLACK/ white when you turn to the start position.
oldspark 
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Posted: March 02, 2011 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged  
I'm waiting for the fire, those those Jap flinks are pretty good.
I just hope we don't feel like confustigating the muddy bucket of pitch with "bad" advise.   
And yes Howard, I like your Bacon - I mean, Shakespearian wordages.
It's about time we expanded our vocabs again - it's been getting so dreary. (ie, only tektawk like splugs, sparts, flinks, flattery, fullery etc.)
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