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5704v to dball2 d2d and no remote start


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howie ll 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM / IP Logged  
Bottom line, left hand 1 = green, 2 = violet. Depending on the starter wire thickness, you can use lighter gauge wires, especially for the bottom right pink in your photo.
usermdr 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 9:26 AM / IP Logged  
I put them back.
This is the new picture.
Are they OK now? I think they are.
5704v to dball2 d2d and no remote start - Page 3 -- posted image.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 9:41 AM / IP Logged  
Yes, you only need green, violet and pink.
usermdr 
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Meanwhile I tried to install the alarm on the car and I got into a new problem.
The problem is that the DBALL 2 does not detect the CAN.
First I had a solid red after that I had 1 red flash.
Those are the steps I did:
1. I flashed the DBALL 2 using the XKLOADER2 (No connection at this stage between the DBALL2 and the Viper 5704v. I used the computer, USB cable, the XKLOADER2, the connection with the DBALL2 and the DBALL2)
Attached is the capture from the screen. I checked all options.
5704v to dball2 d2d and no remote start - Page 3 -- posted image.
2. I did all connections according to the following:
MAIN BRAIN, 6 PIN CONNECTOR
H1/1 - RED (+)12 DC CONSTANT INPUT @ CONSTANT 12 VOLT
H1/2 - BLACK (-)CHASSIS GROUND @ GROUND
H1/3 - BROWN (+)SIREN OUTPUT @ RED POSITIVE WIRE OF SIREN (Black wire of Siren @ Ground)
H1/4 - WHITE/ BROWN PARK LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87A OF ONBOARD RELAY – NOT USED
H1/5 - WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT – NOT USED
H1/6 - ORANGE (-) 500MA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTUT @ ORANGE (-) TILT SENSOR AND BLACK (-) LUMINISCENT INDICATOR (with 2 diodes (1N4004) – Y join towards the alarm brain)
AUX/SHUTDOWN/TRIGGER BRAIN 24 PIN CONNECTOR
H2/1 - PINK/WHITE(-) 200MA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/2 - BLACK WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT – NOT USED
H2/3 - BLUE/ WHITE (-) 200MA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/4 - GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200MA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/5 - RED / WHITE (-) TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/6 - GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT NORM OPEN NORM CLOSE – NOT USED
H2/7 - BLACK YELLOW (-) 200MA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/8 - BROWN / BLACK (-) 200MA HORN HONK OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/9 - DARK BLUE (-) 200MA STATUS OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/10 - PINK (-) 200MA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/11 - WHITE BLACK (-) 200MA AUX 3 OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/12 - VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT – NOT USED
H2/13 - WHITE VIOLET (-) 200MA AUX 1 OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/14 - VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200MA AUX 2 OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/15 - ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200MA AUX 4 OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/16 - BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT – NOT USED
H2/17 - GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT NORM OPEN NORM CLOSE – NOT USED
H2/18 - VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200MA STARTER OUTPUT – NOT USED
H2/19 - BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C or N/O) @ BLUE TILT SENSOR
H2/20 - GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT - NOT USED
H2/21 - WHITE BLUE (-) REMOTE START/TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT - NOT USED
H2/22 - ORANGE (-) 200MA ACCESSORY OUTPUT - NOT USED
H2/23 - VIOLET WHITE TACH INPUT - NUMBER 4 INJECTOR - NOT USED
H2/24 - GREEN WHITE (-) 200MA OEM ARM OUTPUT - NOT USED
REMOTE START, 10 PIN HEAVY GAUGE CONNECTOR
H3/1 - PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT @ PIN 7 GRAY/BLACK (+) IGNITION OUTPUT (DB-ALL2)
H3/2 - RED / WHITE (+) FUSED 30A IGNITION 2/ FLEX REPLAY INPUT 87 - NOT USED
H3/3 - ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT - NOT USED
H3/4 - VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT CAR SIDE OF STARTED KILL - NOT USED
H3/5 - GREEN (+) STARTED INPUT KEY SIDE OF STARTER KILL - NOT USED
H3/6 - RED (+) FUSED 30A IGNITION 1 INPUT - NOT USED
H3/7 - PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 FLEX RELAY OUTPUT - NOT USED
H3/8 - PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A KEY SIDE IF REQUIRED OF FLEX RELAY - NOT USED
H3/9 - RED / BLACK (+) FUSED 30A ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT - NOT USED
H3/10 - NO CONNECTION
DOOR LOCK 3 PIN CONNECTOR
1 - BLUE (-) 500MA UNLOCK OUTPUT - NOT USED
2 - EMPTY
3 - GREEN (-) 500MA LOCK OUTPUT - NOT USED
MUX 1 @ SHOCK SENSOR AND GLASS BREAK (green and blue Y join with diodes away from alarm brain)
MUX 2 @ 508d SENSOR
TILT SENSOR – cut two loops to reduce sensitivity
RED @ 12V+ SUPLY
ORANGE (with diode toward the alarm brain) @ H1/6 - ORANGE (-) 500MA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTUT
BLUE @ H2/19 - BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C or N/O)
RF PORT @ CONTROL CENTER
DB-ALL2 (BLUE PORT)
PIN 5 ORANGE / GREEN:FT CAN High @ ORANGE / GREEN: VEHICLE CAN High
PIN 6 ORANGE / BROWN:FT CAN Low @ ORANGE / BROWN: VEHICLE CAN Low
D2D RED PORT (VIPER 5704v) @ D2D WHITE PORT (DB-ALL2)
I dont understand what was wrong.
catback 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged  
You have no ignition input from the audi to the dball. I know your not doing remote start but during programming the dball needs to know when you've done things like inserted the key (assuming non-PTS). So I'd say more wires are in order.
usermdr 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 4:03 PM / IP Logged  
I was thinking about. I red the Troubleshooting section and the ignition input for dball must be "properly" connected.
I will try to identify the ignition wire and to make the connection.
Do you have any clue on how to identify the ignition wire. I am thinking to use a multimeter and to identify it in the Fuse Panel.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 4:12 PM / IP Logged  
Err read where I said the pink remains connected on H3!
Black blue at the fusebox, or ignition switch loom, black, black yellow.
catback 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 5:25 PM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
Err read where I said the pink remains connected on H3!
Black blue at the fusebox, or ignition switch loom, black, black yellow.
And I'll ask the question preemptively, those are 3 wire colors so am I to assume they are three separate wires? Also where do I connect these wires on the dball or 5704v 5704v to dball2 d2d and no remote start - Page 3 -- posted image.
howie ll 
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Posted: July 21, 2014 at 5:40 PM / IP Logged  
And that's the rub!
I had exactly the same problem with an 07 A6 last week, the pink ignition goes to the grey/black generated by the DB-ALL2.
I wonder if it's worth while connecting an ignition source to the pink on the black plug of the DB-ALL2?
I tried ignition directly to the BLACK/ white on the DB-ALL2 red plug. It didn't work.
catback 
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howie ll wrote:
And that's the rub!
I had exactly the same problem with an 07 A6 last week, the pink ignition goes to the grey/black generated by the DB-ALL2.
I wonder if it's worth while connecting an ignition source to the pink on the black plug of the DB-ALL2?
I tried ignition directly to the BLACK/ white on the DB-ALL2 red plug. It didn't work.
Your the Audi man (I appoint you so) so you tell me? The pink on the black plug is a RS signal to fire up the ignition (DBall -> Audi) not so much a signal that the ignition has been turned on (Audi -> DBall). The BLACK/ White is a negative trigger so if your ignition was +12v yeah that wouldn't work. My thoughts are either the CAN wires are indeed incorrect OR the keysense (BLACK/ white) needs to be hooked up to the audi (BLACK / YELLOW) everything else that attaches to the audi for ignition and brake appear to be outputs. Not sure about the Start/Stop switch (GREEN/ black) that connects to the Black, BLACK/ Red, and Gray/Blue. Off hand it looks like a negative output but it has potential to be a positive sense/input.
And the million dollar question, how much time was actually saved trying to save time not hooking up wires you don't think you need? Every wire could have been hooked up to that DBAll in W2W mode by now.
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