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Posted: March 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM / IP Logged  
 Ok,so what did you mean by this? 
08silvermustang wrote:

Correct except I have the polarity set to (+) I think because it seemed to work backwards.

the domelight wire in the vehicle is a (-).....so changing the polarity to a (+) should of never turned on the domelight....in fact, if the domelight was on, and you hit unlock on your 50.5 you would of blown a fuse.

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Posted: March 17, 2008 at 10:28 PM / IP Logged  

The alarm has a factory alarm rearm and a factory disarm.

Would the factory alarm rearm be the same control as the arm feature on the original key fob?

I checked all my connections pretty well with a meter but things can come loose.

As I was saying before If I arm with my original key fob first then with the clifford keyfob then the alarm works, and when I disarm after the same procedure the factory alarm is off.

It might be possible that some wire has come loose or something.

Could this possibly be the problem?

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I also got the direct wire printout for the wireing color codes and I will have to look again but I believe I remember seeing two Lt. blue/pink wires.

The printout says use this wire for Factory Alarm Arm, Maybe I have the wrong one.

It says it is located on pin 18, and maybe I made a mistake when counting those tinny little pin numbers and the one I found could also have been the dupicate color by some strange chance.

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editing now....just noticed something
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Factory rearm will arm the factory alarm....this wire will go to lt blue/pink (-) arm wire in vehicle...disarm will go to the lt blue/black (-) disarm wire of the vehicle.
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Posted: March 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM / IP Logged  
Can you arm the OEM alarm and turn the domelight OFF by turning the key to LOCK in the drivers door with the doors closed? If you cannot, then this is going to be a lot more difficult. I don't recall seeing a Ford that allows arming the OEM alarm without using the OEM remote, or by locking the door with the door open. They may have changed that recently. I have been out of the industry for 2 years now, so I am not too familiar with all the new cars.
To have the aftermarket unit not show the door as open you have to turn Door Sensor Bypass Chirp to OFF in programming. After the domelight turns off, the alarm will then start to monitor the door trigger.
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Well that sucks.

Whats the point of an aftermarket alarm if you have to carry two remotes to get all your features.

As per your sugestions they are well apreciated.

The 3rd sugestion when you say door trigger do you mean Lock Motor? The Direct wire printout says that the lock motor has a polarity of 5wi

Does this help determine the pulse problem?

That would be a nice fix and if I can't get a door signal the horn would sound setting of the shock sensor and signal me anyway.

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Posted: March 17, 2008 at 11:01 PM / IP Logged  

I was thinking that also Jworm....will that still show a door open on the lcd, when he arms the system..I don't use DEI, so not sure.

Heres another link I found. It won't turn off the domelight, but it will give you 2 independent door triggers, that won't have a delay. I've never used it, so i'm not sure if it works.

http://www.canadiancaraudio.com/online/install-related/21696-05-06-mustang-door-pins-question.html

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The direct wire printout says Lt. Blue/pink and Lt. Blue/black but this could be wrong. the two blue wires are lt. Blue but are slightly different shades of blue, one darker than the other but not as dark as some of the other blue wires in the loom, they look lighter.

I found that odd when doing the hookup.

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I edited a previous post where I was talking about pulsing the doorpin while arming the alarm. I didn't realize that a "factory alarm rearm" wire is now listed on the latest generation Mustang.
When I said door trigger, I meant the true door trigger. I believe it goes to an open circuit when the door is open, and ground when the door is closed. DEI does not list it on their tech sheet. You would have to wire in a relay to break the connection when you arm the alarm.
Ford does not care about you arming the OEM alarm with an aftermarket unit when they design the car. The aftermarket alarm company has no way to replicate the RF signal that the OEM remote sends to the OEM alarm. That is the problem. If you can arm the alarm another way, it may be possible to get the aftermarket unit to do everything.
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