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blkrhyno 
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You guys are funny, i know this must be a stupid question but do i need a board to solder these chips too? I can't just run a wire from them like I would a relay right? Sorry iif my questions seem stupid I'm just use to doing alarms and stereos.
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I would suggest a Perf board or an IC circuit board from Radio Shack

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productid=2103799

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I suggest the same type of board.  A lot of times their boards sit on the shelf for a while, you may want to use some 400 grit sandpaper to remove the oxidation from the solder pads.  It will make it much easier to solder onto the pads. 
dualsport 
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Along with the suggestions for the board, you can also get IC sockets that will let you plug in the chip after you're all done wiring.
You can solder in the socket without worrying about damaging the chip.
If you ever find a need to replace the chip, you'll be happy you can just pull it out and simply plug in the new one-
Something like this is 18 cents from digikey-
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http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productid=2062607

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blkrhyno 
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Thanks, you guys are extremely helpful. I have another stupid question, do I wire the diodes, resistors & caps on the wire or on the board? Is it at all possible for one of you guys to draw a diagram showing how it should be wired on the board?

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You should be able to put all the components on the board. You know how to use a soldering iron, I assume- If you print out the schematic you can just use a highlighter to mark off the connections you've made, and just go until you have everything connected. That'll help you keep track of what else you have to connect together as you go.
Use sockets for the IC and transistors, the other stuff you should be able to solder on directly, as they're more rugged.
If you anticipate needing to modify the timing, you can use sockets for the resistor and cap to be able to easily change them by plugging in new values.
blkrhyno 
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Yes I know how to use a soldering iron, thank you for all your help, I'll let you know how it works out.
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blkrhyno 
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Sorry one more question, do I run wires from the board to the relays? In other words, how do i connect the curcuit board to the relays?
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I assume you're not going to use any board mount type relays, but the standard automotive types with the blade connectors, so you'll be connecting wires to the board-
Get one of the commonly available relay socket harnesses, and you can connect the wires from the harness to the board and plug the relays into the harness sockets.
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