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I don't know how involved you are willing to get with this, but I have another idea that involves using an op amp as a two voltage followers.  The outputs of the op amps can then drive the transistors above.

Have you tried the relay diagram with the diodes?  If that works that would be quite a bit simpler.

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If you do try the relays, the numbers are correct on the relays.  However the layout is not correct.  Do not make the circuit look as it does in the picture.
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im into it until it is accomplished.
I have a dodge and they are notorious for multiplex systems. one wire with multible functions via ground resistance. I can wire the switches for anything i need or want. Do you or anyone know of a system or setup that can be done to create a multiplex system.
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I know the pin outs on relays without even thinking about it anymore so I read it as numbers anyway. BUt i did try it and didnt get anywhere. will again try anything.,
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djfearny2 wrote:
im into it until it is accomplished.
I have a dodge and they are notorious for multiplex systems. one wire with multible functions via ground resistance. I can wire the switches for anything i need or want. Do you or anyone know of a system or setup that can be done to create a multiplex system.

Multiplexing gets a bit more involved and can be done in several ways.  For a voltage multiplex you can use a microcontroller with analog to digital converter or you can use op amps set up as voltage comparators.  I've personally done it both ways and it worked both ways.  When I went the op amp route I used to op amps for each multiplex input and created a voltage "window".

Since you are only using battery voltage and ground I think it can be done with one op amp chip (with multiple op amps on it).  I'll try to draw something up later today.

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thnanks again if possible please include part numbers.
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im guessing no luck or time.
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banging my head, 1 wire, 2 functions - Page 3 -- posted image.

I would give this a shot.  The op amp (available at Radioshack stores) should provide isolation between the transistor bases.  The op amp will be set up as a "voltage follower" on both channels and will output whatever  you put in to it.  So, Pin 1 and Pin 7 will mimic your wire coming from the steering wheel.  The seperate, isolated channels should stop any feedback.

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can you tell me how i determine the propper pin outs on the op chip. There is no significant marking except a dot more or less to determine orientation.
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The Dot is pin 1.   Also, the horseshoe shaped notch in the top of the picture above indicates pin 1.  All integrated circuits have one or both of the markings described.
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