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puzzleboy

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Posted: September 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM / IP Logged

Hi all. My first post here.

I'm going to install an Ultra Start remote starter in my '99 Grand Cherokee. The vehicle does not have a Sentry Key system, so I don't need a bypass. Wondering if anyone can help me out.

Exactly what wires in the column to tap into, resistor(s) and/or relays required, etc. I only want the unit to function as a remote starter (no door locks, trunk, etc.). I'm a bit confused with the parking light part too - does it really need a relay and resistor, or just a resistor? On this site, I've got the wiring description for my vehicle (I'm good with that), as well as the Installation Note for Jeeps which eliminates the reqmt. for a resistored parking light circuit - connects directly to the parking light relay terminal.

Anybody have any idea why my starter (Ultra Start) would have 2 12 volt inputs? Do I just use one of them? Also, according to Bulldog Security's wiring guide on their site, it says parking light system should use the negative output from my module. Can anyone confirm this?

The wires for my starter are:

Starter Output (+) YELLOW

Heater/Accessory Output (+) GREEN

12 Volt Input (+) 30amp RED

Selectable Output (+) WHITE

Ignition Output (+) BLUE

Diesel wait to start input (+ or -) BLUE

Brake Switch Input (+) PINK

Horn Output (-) WHITE/ BLUE

System Ground Input (-) BLACK

Park Light Output (+) 10 amp WHITE

Hood pin switch Input (-) GREEN / WHITE

Tach Detection Input (A/C) BLUE/WHITE

Re-arm Output (-) YELLOW

Trunk Release Output (-) RED / WHITE

Dis-arm Output (-) 250ma BROWN

Negative Park Light Output (-)250ma ORANGE

Ground While Running Output WHITE/ VIOLET

Appreciate any help you can offer!

Jason

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Posted: September 29, 2009 at 8:56 PM / IP Logged

I have no personal experience with that particular starter, but, normallly two twelve volt inputs on a remote start is normal, to power the starter circuit along with the ignition and accesory circuits.

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puzzleboy

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Posted: September 30, 2009 at 12:39 AM / IP Logged

Thanks for your reply!

Well, there are two wires in my ignition harness that are 12v constant. A red wire, and a pink/black. Unfortunately, the install guide that came with my starter is too vague. I'd hate to fry anything..... any suggestions? One to each?

Also, for things like heater/accessory output and selectable output, I guess it's o.k. just to tape them off and stow them if they're not being used?

Thanks.

tommy...

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:08 AM / IP Logged

Why are you not powering up HVAC...? Whats the point of the remote start...? It is normal to have more then one 12v in ignition harness...One to each is fine...! Yes you can just tape up the wires you are not using...! Which Ultra Start is it...? On some you can change it to negative parking lights in the menu...!

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puzzleboy

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:15 AM / IP Logged

Thanks for the input! It's a G11t. It has a negative parking light output as well, so I will just not use the positive one.

I do want the windshield defrost of the vehicle to come on, dependent on the setting I left it on. But this should work anyway once the vehicle is remote started, no? The only extra I would want powered would be the rear defrost, but I don't want that to turn on with every start.

So Heater/ACC output I will use, but I'm guessing I don't need to use the selectable output, etc.?

I've only installed one of these before, and it was a factory version. I just don't want to screw anything up!

tommy...

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:20 AM / IP Logged

The selectable output is for 2nd starter,acc,or ignition...! Does your have 2 of any of these...? if so you would use it...!

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:22 AM / IP Logged

Battery	PINK/BLACK	(+)	OR RED IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Ignition 1	DARK BLUE	(+)	IGNITION HARNESS
Accessory 1	RED / BLACK	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Accessory 2	BLACK/ ORANGE	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
Starter 1	YELLOW	(+)	OR YEL/BLU IGNITION HARNESS
Anti-Theft Type	RF ACTIVATED SYS.
Anti-Theft Descript	THE KEY SENDS AN RF SIGNAL TO THE BCM MODULE THROUGH THE KEY CYLINDER
Neutral Safety	YELLOW	(+)	IGNITION SWITCH
Tachometer	TAN/WHITE	(AC)	PCM RIGHT REAR CORNER ENG (1 CYL SETTING
Speed Sense	WHITE/ ORANGE	(AC)	PIN 27 PCM LEFT FENDER SIDE SHIELD
Parking Lights	YELLOW	(-)	1K OHM RESISTOR AT THE STEERING COLUM HARNESS...USE A 1K OHM RESISTOR. MAY ALSO BE AN 820 OHM RESISTOR.
Brake Lights	WHITE/ TAN	(+)	SWITCH ON PEDAL
Reverse Lights	VIOLET/BLACK	(+)	72 PIN CONN POS 6 BEHIND PASS KICK
Horn	GRAY/ORANGE	(-)	52 PIN CONN POS 1 BEHIND LEFT SIDE OF DA

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tommy...

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:24 AM / IP Logged

Heres how to do door locks w/o using a bypass... http://documents.codesystems.com/700661.pdf ...I know you mentioned not including door locks...But thought i would post it anyway...Good Luck on install...! And your ignition key is black...right...?

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puzzleboy

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:34 AM / IP Logged

What is a second starter?

No anti theft on my Jeep (was an option). Dumb question - I guess all the outputs are required because with the key in the off position (during remote start operation), the circuits are not powered (heat, etc.)?

I only have the inputs and outputs listed in my first post. What are speed sense, and reverse lights used for in a remote starter install?

Thanks again.

Jason

tommy...

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Posted: October 01, 2009 at 11:39 AM / IP Logged

None of these wires you mentioned apply to you...You will need to power up the HVAC in order for the heater to blow...The 2nd starter is for newer dodge's...nissan's...etc...Again it does not apply in your situation...

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