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1999 Dodge Grand Caravan, Viper 5902


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dereileak 
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Posted: February 12, 2010 at 9:59 PM / IP Logged  
will they be quiter then? would it work fine with a relay
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tommy... 
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Posted: February 12, 2010 at 11:02 PM / IP Logged  
Sure you can add a relay...Are you asking if adding a 2nd siren would somehow reduce the loudness...?
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 12, 2010 at 11:11 PM / IP Logged  
yea, if I have 2 sirens on the one output of the alarm will the sirens be quiter then if it was 2 on a relay, also will the alarm chirp correctly and everything with 2 sirens if put on a relay??
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x1le 
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Posted: February 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM / IP Logged  
you'll be fine w/o a relay for only 2 sirens.
dereileak 
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Posted: February 13, 2010 at 10:08 PM / IP Logged  
ok, the outside one is not as loud as it was when I set it on the car hood testing it, now that it is bolted inside the car, I put it in a decent spot and really its the only spot that I could put it in, I used a factory bolt and put it on the inside of the mounting bracket, now I can not wait to get my piezo, all the functions work, one last thing, I still have not put the brain away and everything, x1le, do I need a bitwriter to program the unit to recognize the sound sensor, because it said in my manual you needed it to change zone 4, but I am not sure, also will the 200ma defogger wire need a relay if hooked up, I am guessing I need to find the wire by testing with my DMM and finding one that puts out 12 volts when switched on? but will it need a relay to work or is 200 ma enough and then that defogger wire activates a relay? I have no clue what wire that is in the car, its for the rear defogger, I ended up with a dead battery yesterday when installing (LEFT the door open and I think the lights inside, went to remote start after doing it the morning successfully and CLICK CLICK CLICK, I am like oh NO did I screw up a wire (after I taped most the wires up, then I thought, I will test the battery, was down to 9.2 volts, which is horrible for a standard NON-DEEP cycle battery, but got it going agian, and back up to 12.7 volts when off, and charging at about 14.5 volts, so its all good, so any advice on that? should I mount the piezo second siren by the brain so if a person tries to mess with the wires it will hurt the crap out of there ears? ha ha, I do not think a second battery is necessary, by the time they would cut the battery, or get in the car to disable the alarm, I would be on my way out, so , and I am betting I can scare the doodie out of someone, also should I put the viper stickers on the outside, some websites said to never put the brand of the alarm on the outside, but I think it would be good so people know not to even screw around
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 13, 2010 at 11:33 PM / IP Logged  
anyone know?
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 14, 2010 at 12:13 AM / IP Logged  
additionally to what was above, I kinda understood soldering before I did the alarm, now after I realize many of the joints I did were cold, meaning I heated the solder and then put it on the joint, many of the times I wrapped solder around the wires I was gonna solder, and then put the tip on and melted it on the wire, now realizing this is the incorrect way, although not the as strong as a regular solder joint, will it hold up over 5 years or so? I have plenty of tape on each joint and will make sure the starter wires have little pressure on them by using zip ties, I really REALLY REALLY do not want to take all the tape off and re solder, as this would take hours on hours, but I do not want to have an issue of my car not starting in 6 months because of a simple solder joint, let me know what you think, I personally think it is plenty strong, as some of the practice joints I did, that were cold, would rip the wire before the joint would break, also much of the time when melting the solder on the wire did heat up a lot, enough to make the wire very hot even from 3 inches away, all except the lock wire because i could not reach it well and was was VERY hard to solder in the little spot, that is the main joint I am worried about, so let me know what you think, also if you have a replay to the post that I talked about the defogger that would be AWESOME, thanks for all the help PEOPLE!!! =)
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tedmond 
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Posted: February 14, 2010 at 7:17 AM / IP Logged  

of all the connections made, since you have the 5902, im sure you used the starter kill built in.

just unwrap the starter wire and solder the 2 wires, violet and green.

i would recomend soldering all, but if time is an issue, just tackle the starter wire (motor and key side)

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x1le 
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Posted: February 14, 2010 at 9:31 AM / IP Logged  
Give your wires firm little tugs. If they don't come apart, you're all set.
The way I personally solder is put the iron on the wire, when I think it's hot enough I start to apply a small amount of solder in the corner between the iron and the wire. When it's hot, it will just suck it up throughout the wire.
As for the defogger, locate the wires to the switch and start testing!
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...Also you could always strip the insulation back...In the center of the wire push the test lead from your meter...So now it looks like an eye of a needle...Push the attaching wire through and push close the whole...Tightly wrap the attaching wire around the exposed wire in the vehicle...Wrap tight with tape and then finish off with a zip-tie around the wrapped point...Kinda will have to guess once tape is applied...but still not hard...
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