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1999 Dodge Grand Caravan, Viper 5902


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dereileak 
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Posted: February 18, 2010 at 12:45 AM / IP Logged  
I mean one going to the relay for the piezo siren and one going to the main siren, also I hooked up the rear defroster, it showed like 12 volts when off, and 1.5 when on, and I hooked up the negative 200ma wire to it, when it turns on I hear the relay click and it works fine, I just want to make sure that it will not burn it out, it is only to drive a relay thats already in the car
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tedmond 
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Posted: February 18, 2010 at 12:54 AM / IP Logged  

yes you will simply branch off the siren wire to the relay.

did you test the wire for defroster? if you have verified it is the correct wire, if the output from the viper can trigger the factory relay, you are okay.

you can always wire in a relay just incase as a preventative measure.

85 - 200ma output from viper (2nd status/defogger)
86 - constant 12v
87 - connect to whatever polarity is required for defrost.
30 - defrost wire that you tested.

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dereileak 
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Posted: February 18, 2010 at 6:35 PM / IP Logged  
ok tedmond, I did what you said, so when I arm the car it allows that relay to activate the siren inside, tested and works, now for an issue though, when I put the key in the car and IS NOT ARMED, with no remote start, the siren is super quiet, but I can hear all the tones playing through, one at a time, even when I put in gear and drive, the siren is still going, I just branched off the siren output hooked to relay and also hooked ground when armed up, so those two activate the coil which allows the 12v fused through the relay to the siren. Any ideas, do I need a diode between the the siren output and the wire going to the relay, that seems to have been the cause, kinda weird, it must be getting a small small amount of voltage as its super quiet, almost like I am imagining it, ha ha
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 18, 2010 at 8:21 PM / IP Logged  
anyone know?
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tedmond 
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Posted: February 19, 2010 at 6:39 AM / IP Logged  

you can try to diode isolat the relay from the siren wire.

try placing a diode across the relay terminal 85 and 65. never seen this problem befor.

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meter and see...try as tedmond said also...
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dereileak 
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ok, the relay of the siren works fine now, I am going to hook up the siren tomorrow, man is it loud, ha ha, i hooked it up to 6 volts with AA batterys and its blasts my ears, imagine 12-13 volts in the car. ok, now the main thing is my proximity sensor, do seats effect the signal, like if I mount it on the floor on the van up by the drivers seats, will the signal be fine through out the car, like, does it read even through seats? I set the warming as high as it goes and it reaches all the way to the back of the van about 3 feet outside, and all around the vehicle except the front, the main one I was having issues with was the inside, where it wouldnt read my hand in the car, but if I walked fast outside it would trigger, I just have to mess with settings, but any ideas? Also do I have too hook up my audio sensor and prox sensor to the same port? I didnt see any second spot to plug in the audio sensor. I imagine Iwill just wire the ground, 12v and trigger wire into the prox sensor, but do I need to diode isolate and how do I do that? overall my install went great, you guys have helped a ton, I had no idea I had the capability to do all of this and install on my own, thanks a bunch, the only thing I am not happy with is I didnt shorten any of the wires, so I have a bunch of wire bundled up under the steering column that just waste and left over, but I do not want to cut it all and resolder as that would take forever, dont fix whats not broken, lol, at least if this car ever dies or somethin, I can easily move it to a new one, well let me know on the sensor thing, thanks so much, btw, I just had to diode isolate the siren, for some reason my grounded when armed puts out 3 volts when the car is running, I imagine its for a bypass module to power it or somehting, because it puts 3 volts or so, that what the siren was getting at least, or more like 1.5 volts, but I think it must tell a bypass module to turn on, and then when the car is off and armed it grounds so it will not start with a bypass module. I made sure it was the correct wire, the orange thicker wire from the 9 pin or 10 pin harness, anyway let me know what you think
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 24, 2010 at 6:37 PM / IP Logged  
ok, a few major questions, got both sensors hooked up, but when the prox sensor warns it warns then send the whole things off, I have the wires split so that audio sensor and prox sensor go into the blue wire, the green wire doesnt split to anything, power is shared between both, the audio sensor says it takes 1ma, so I figured both on the same electrical wires is fine, is it ok to put both sensors on the same wires, or is that too hard on the module? do I need to diode isolate the sensors so that they do not trigger each other or what? thats my last part of the install, got the peizo siren in, and its pretty loud, should help deter thiefs, my van sounds like its have a seizure when it goes off, no one will stick around with this van, under the dash is kinda messy with wires, but its not like anyone goes and looks under there :P, so any ideas on my sensors?
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dereileak 
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Posted: February 24, 2010 at 9:00 PM / IP Logged  
anyone know?
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sneakycyber 
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Yes you need to diode Isolate the sensors from each other. The instruction manual (for the sensor) shows how to do it. I have the audio sensor and a second shock sensor connected to mine. You should connect both of these to the mux port on the brain its right next to Neutral safety switch. My sensors came with a Y cord that allowed me to just plug them both in at the same time.
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