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scooter99 
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I knew that.  I'm an idiot!  Thanks!
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Ok so as an update to this, I orderd my gear.  I have a Zenesis ZN 502 comming along with (2) 530T's for the windows, a 529T for the sunroof, the Idatalinnk, and the webusblink cable.  I already got the 530's in, and the rest should be here this week.  Is there anything anyone can tell me about installing the 2 - 530's and the 529?  Do I need relays for them etc.  I'm going to work on a diagram this week and post it to make sure I'm on the right track, but I thought I'd ask about it anyway. I was going to get the backup battery but chose not to at the moment.  Maybe I'll do that down the line.  I'll update more as I get it done. 
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Posted: February 23, 2010 at 8:20 PM / IP Logged  

no need for additional relays since the modules do everything.

however adding a relay for the ground when armed wont hurt and is a good preventative meansure. Since you have the 530t, 592, and  antigrind (optional), you might want to concider using a relay to power up all these sources. Since the output is only 250ma, it might burn the output on the zenesis.

85 - gwa from unit

86 - constant 12v
87 - high current ground (chassis)
30 - to all GWA inputs from additional modules.

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scooter99 
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Ok well you had with evertything else except the "antigrind". What is that?
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Anit-grind prevents you from re- engaging the starter with the key during key take over while the car is running under a remote start.
Soldering is fun!
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its wired up exactly like a starter kill, but insted of using the ground when armed, use ground when running(status)

often for units that do  not have built in starter kills, i diode isolate both the gwr and gwa to the relay, now the relay has 2 purposes.

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Ok I'm a little stumped on this.  I'm looking at the instructions for the Idatalink.  It says LOCK/ARM [-] INPUT - GREEN/ BLACK.  Then the wire under it says UNLOCK/DISARM [-] INPUT - BLUE/BLACK.  Then I look at the Zenesis Brain and I see the input connector (CON 3) and I see a (+) Door Trigger Input and  (-) Door Trigger Input.  So I'm guessing the GREEN/ Black (lock/arm) goes to the (-) Door Trigger Input?  But where does the other one go to?  I'm not seeing an unlock one. 

Wait on Con 8 (Auxiliary outputs) I see a black (-) armed output and a gray (-) disarm output.  Is this what I should be using?  So That black to the GREEN/ black and the gray to the blue/black? 

Someone help please.

Tedmond - Can you explain a little more on this?  Is this something I need to do?  The Zenesis has a Ground When Running Output, and that's what I'm running the idatalink wire to.  Does that solve the issue?  Or is there something else I need to do?

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Posted: February 24, 2010 at 12:39 PM / IP Logged  
take the lock output of the zenesis, and connect it to LOCK/ARM input of idatalink. Do the same for the unlock.
The door triggers, the zenesis has (-) door inputs, connect taht to the idatalink (-) door trigger output.
connect the ground when running to the bypass module with a diode inline(band facing the alarm)Branch off the wire and connect it to a relay for your antigrind. Also connect the ground when armed to the relay so you have a starter kill
85 - gwr and gwa both diode isolated
86 - ignition
cut starter wire in half
87a - starter wire key side
30 - starter wire motor side
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scooter99 
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Posted: February 24, 2010 at 3:01 PM / IP Logged  

Ok so my latest delimma.  Thanks to everyone for their help by the way! 

The 530T has a gray wire - H2/5 GRAY (-) Output during activation

I cannot find this on the alarm. 

What does this gray wire do?  What is it for?  It has a note next to it that says "Connect this wire to optional relay (P/N 610T) to bypass sensors which may trigger the security system during operation.  This wire continues to output (-) ground for 5 seconds after the window motors have stopped."

I guess I just don't understand what all that means.  Can someone explain it in lame mans terms for me? 

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Posted: February 24, 2010 at 3:15 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry should I do the relay for this also, if I can figure it out?
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