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cristu 
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Posted: March 09, 2013 at 9:52 PM / IP Logged  
Maybe someone sees the car is starting alone a few times and he 'becames" interesting by stealing it. I want to know if I protect starting the car with the key from bypass. Someone else said to cut the starter wire and wire it through the module as a starter kill, if the power falls out from the RS the he cannot start the engine.
howie ll 
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Posted: March 10, 2013 at 3:18 AM / IP Logged  
One would have "assumed" that's how you would have done it in the first place.
cristu 
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Yes, i know that but in my case a keyless bypass cannot be done so i want to use the onboard relays from RS as a kill starter, is it possible or should not do this ? can you please tell me how to wire it up ? Thank you in advance.
howie ll 
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Posted: March 10, 2013 at 6:53 AM / IP Logged  
That diagram will disable remote start whilst alarm is on this one is better:-
35E_starter_cut.bmp
cristu 
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Posted: March 10, 2013 at 7:06 AM / IP Logged  
I appreciate your help very much, Thank You.
cristu 
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Posted: March 14, 2013 at 5:55 AM / IP Logged  
Still not decided what bypass should I use for my RS, I rather prefer a keyless bypass like Xpresskit XK05 with PKTI firmware witch is available for me to buy it from a local store.
The install seller told me that this kind of bypass is compatible with my car and he installed a lot of them for my type of car but he
didn't want to tell me how can I make the connections unless Is installed by them.
So I try to figure out with the installation manual
next to ignition barrel witch wires should I connect but I don't see any plugs like T8 Black or E5 White located at the ignition switch
only transponder plug with 3 wires (12V+, antenna signal from Ignition Immobilizer system and (-) ground). The RX/TX wires are missing.
This wire (pin 4 - Transponder aerial bus interface signal) goes to passenger compartment computer (pin A16 - Black) and then from this unit (at pin B36 - Green) a wire goes to injection computer (gray module - B4)
I want to figure out how RX / TX wires are function it for transponder Ignition Immobilizer and how can I wire them to my transponder.
Here's a picture with my ignition barrel.
Viper 350, 530t, 2009 Dacia Logan - Page 9 -- posted image.
howie ll 
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Posted: March 14, 2013 at 6:20 AM / IP Logged  
Pay the installer to do it.
I have no info on Renault.
cristu 
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Posted: March 14, 2013 at 6:35 AM / IP Logged  
I see...I think so.
cristu 
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Posted: March 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM / IP Logged  
Since I already have an alarm system installed on my car (Viper5002) and installing the RS 5101, I know that I'll carry 2 remotes after me. The main function of the second remote from RS is just remote start. I'm not planning to use the lock/unlock or aux buttons. But If I accidentally press the unlock button what is the consequence ?
What will happen if i press unlock button from the RS remote control, the car is unlocking and disarming ? But If I press lock button from RS when it's unlocked/disarmed, it will lock and arm ?
Or the RS remote will supply functions (lock/unlock/arm/disarm) of alarm remote ?
I'm asking you because there are some common connections from viper 5002 and 5101 RS module regarding the lock/unlock doors.
Should I use diodes when the wires from RS and alarm meets at the plug ?
Common wires from RS and security alarm (Viper 5002):
H1/8 GREEN(-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT
H1/11 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT
Pin 1 BLUE (+) LOCK (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT
Pin 3 GREEN (-) LOCK (+) UNLOCK OUTPUT
And I already have a hood pin connected at 5002. I know that GRAY(-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT from RS is required to be connected in MTS mode. Can I connect this wire together with the hood pin wire from the alarm ? Should I use diodes ?
howie ll 
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Use the WHITE/ blue aux output connect to the WHITE/ blue on your R/S then you can use the alarm's remote. Read the instructions.
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