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2002 subaru impreza rs, clifford 50.7x


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drummerdude 
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I am installing a Clifford 50.7x into my 2002 Subaru Imprea RS on thursday, and seeings as this alarm/ remote start is a little bit more complicated than previous installs, as well as having far more features, I have a few questions I hope you can help me clarify.

H1 = Main Harness

H2 = H2 Harness
H3 = Remote Start

here are my questions:

H1/4 WHITE/ Brown Parking Light Isolation Wire - Pin 87a of onboard relay - my vehicle has (-) parking lights, can I just connect the parking Light output (H1/11) to the parking lights, or do I need to use this relay?

H1/9 BLACK/ White (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision - what purpose does this serve, I have the door triggers connected, do I need this?

H2/9 Violet/White Tachometer Input - this is more of a vehicle specific question, can I use the green at the back of the gauge cluster or would it be better to use the crankshaft or camshaft position sensor?

H2/18 BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety Input - My vehicle produces a ground when in gear, which is opposite this wire. I plan on connecting this to the ebrake switch, I would still like to use the neutral safety switch on the transmission and I have read that i can do this by combining it with the hood pin, do I need to use a diode or something like that?

H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output - I believe I should connect this to the Ignition wire on the vehicle

H3/6 Red Ignition 1 Input (30A fused) - I believe that this would be the positive source for the onboard Ignition relay.

H3/9 RED / Black Accessory/Starter Relay Input (30A fused) - I believe this would be the positive source for the onboard accessory/starter relay.

what, if any, of the connections need diodes or relays or any other special attention? The installation manual says if you screw the brain w/onboard shock sensor to the steering column or anything else metal it will negatively affect the shock sensors sensitivity, how should I mount it then?

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Thanks for the help.

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syl20rochon 
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Posted: April 04, 2011 at 9:09 PM / IP Logged  
I am installing a Clifford 50.7x into my 2002 Subaru Imprea RS on thursday, and seeings as this alarm/ remote start is a little bit more complicated than previous installs, as well as having far more features, I have a few questions I hope you can help me clarify.
H1 = Main Harness
H2 = H2 Harness
H3 = Remote Start
here are my questions:
H1/4 WHITE/ Brown Parking Light Isolation Wire - Pin 87a of onboard relay - my vehicle has (-) parking lights, can I just connect the parking Light output (H1/11) to the parking lights, or do I need to use this relay?
***Just connect the white wire and position the fuse for negative parking light output***
H1/9 BLACK/ White (-) 200mA Dome Light Supervision - what purpose does this serve, I have the door triggers connected, do I need this?
***Don’t connect this wire, not needed unless you want your domelight to come on when unlocking the vehicle***
H2/9 Violet/White Tachometer Input - this is more of a vehicle specific question, can I use the green at the back of the gauge cluster or would it be better to use the crankshaft or camshaft position sensor?
***If you’re installing on a automatic vehicle, not needed. You can set virtual tach. If you have a manual transmission, connect to one of the injectors***
H2/18 BLACK/ White (-) Neutral Safety Input - My vehicle produces a ground when in gear, which is opposite this wire. I plan on connecting this to the ebrake switch, I would still like to use the neutral safety switch on the transmission and I have read that i can do this by combining it with the hood pin, do I need to use a diode or something like that?
***Connect to ground if it’s an automatic transmission or to e-brake if manual***
H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1 Input/Output - I believe I should connect this to the Ignition wire on the vehicle
***Yes***
H3/6 Red Ignition 1 Input (30A fused) - I believe that this would be the positive source for the onboard Ignition relay.
***Red, RED / White, RED / Black to positive 12V source of vehicle…heaving gauge.***
what, if any, of the connections need diodes or relays or any other special attention? The installation manual says if you screw the brain w/onboard shock sensor to the steering column or anything else metal it will negatively affect the shock sensors sensitivity, how should I mount it then?
***I use tie raps to attach it to some of the vehicle’s harnesses***
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drummerdude 
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Posted: April 04, 2011 at 9:35 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the answers, I forgot to say it was a manual transmission. just to clarify, you are saying to tie strap the brain to a wire harness?
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syl20rochon 
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Posted: April 04, 2011 at 9:54 PM / IP Logged  
yes...more sensitive to vibration when mounted that way....If you have anymore questions, see my profile and you'll find my email. You can send me direct emails.
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howie ll 
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Posted: April 05, 2011 at 12:14 AM / IP Logged  
Personally, I would still run tach to that green wire, it's easier than the engine bay, I would also connect the BLACK/ white to the NSS on the engine management. You will find it tests NEG. if the gearshift is in neutral which is what you want. If it doesn't a relay powered with your ignition will do the trick. See my post in this section on Neutral safety.
drummerdude 
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Posted: April 05, 2011 at 3:00 PM / IP Logged  

I am going to use the green tach wire first, as it is right there, and if it doesn't work I'll use a wire at the ECU. for the neutral safety switch I am going to use a method I saw on Scoobymods.com where you use a relay with the neutral safety switch, e-brake wire, and 2nd ignition relay to ouput to the neutral safety input on the unit.

another question I had, I was planning on wiring the status output to the clutch wire to tell the car the clutch is engaged, do I need a relay?

what connections should be diode isolated?

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buddholly 
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Posted: April 05, 2011 at 4:13 PM / IP Logged  
Use the negative start signal to the (purple / YELLOW wire) at the clutch pedal.
syl20rochon 
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Posted: April 05, 2011 at 6:26 PM / IP Logged  
Neutral safety wire directly to e-brake and do the clutch as per Buddholly wrote. The door trigger input from the r/s which is green to the yellow wire at the keyless module which is left of steering column.
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drummerdude 
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Posted: April 06, 2011 at 1:34 AM / IP Logged  

I appreciate the info and the help, I will use the wiring listed on scoobymods because I like the double back up, e-brake and it has to be in neutral.

what connections need diodes? I know the neutral safety does because it shows the ground in gear and +12v in neutral.

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howie ll 
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Posted: April 06, 2011 at 3:06 AM / IP Logged  
Ref the last post: Are you sure, I thoughtall NSS wires showed ground at neutral.
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