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Mike M2 
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Posted: April 08, 2011 at 7:33 PM / IP Logged  

Now i have had a few beers, but that diagram is only giving a pulse. You still need a timer unless you plan on holding down the AUX output button until the action is over. I saw this done with a timer on a single AUX button once, if the trunk was closed it hit a pin switch activating a relay to flip it from close to open. If the pin switch was pressed down it opened, if it was up it closed...

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scooter99 
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Posted: April 09, 2011 at 11:53 AM / IP Logged  
Ok so howie what you're saying is that I would be fine to use this diagram with the alarm.
I would however need to use the trunk pop for one and then one of the aux for the other. The aux already being (-) is fine, but the trunk pop I believe is (+) out of the alarm so I'd need a reverse polarity relay for that. Diodes on both like the drawing shows. Is that all correct?
For a constant power instead of pulse to keep the actuator moving I should run either a DEI 528T on both sides, or should I go with the DEI529T instead so I have one module instead of two? Also if I use the 529T, does it go between the relays and the linear actuator, or between the switch and relays?
Thanks guys!
howie ll 
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Posted: April 09, 2011 at 12:52 PM / IP Logged  
On that last diagram they've "dewired" the switch to give neg. going from both the switch and the alarm. Use the first diagram.
I have no idea if your trunk pop output from the Zen is - or =,check the manual although DEI product is always NEG.
Use a 529t between switch and motor, you DON'T need the relays.
scooter99 
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 2:18 AM / IP Logged  
Ok so here's what I've drawn up.
SO my wife and I were talking and we've decided that the safest thing to do with the down portion of the actuator was to put a button on the trunk, and in the dash, to operate the down or closed motion of the trunk. This will prevent closing it and a child getting caught in there, or anything else for that matter, heaven forbid. This will free up the second aux on the alarm and thus being able to separate the sunroof and the window modules.
So let me explain real quick, as best as I can, what the diagram shows. I'm sure this may be wrong, I'm not confident on what I'm doing but it's a shot.
Up and Trunk Pop:
Alarm wire for trunk pop (blue +) into a reverse polarity relay (#86) and out (#87) to the green stock trunk pop wire (green -). Spliced off of that wire (#87 to OEM trunk pop) goes a wire to the DEI 528T Black W/Stripe - Trigger Input. Red - 12v+, Black - Ground, Orange 87A - Not used, Yellow 30 - Grounded, Brown 87 - DEI 529T: Gray + Orange Side 1 (connected together).
DEI 529T:
Blue(Motor Side 1 / Up) - Red to actuator
Brown (Switch Side 1 / Up) - Out to switch in dash
That should cover the trunk pop or latch release, and the timed delay (using the 528T) as well as the switch up front and the alarm.
What I have to remember is that I have to pop the trunk using the OEM lever up front before I can hit the button.
OR; Question: Can I bypass the switch to brown on the DEI 529T, and splice into the pin #86 on the reverse relay that the blue (+) wire is on from the alarm. I think I'd have to diode the both maybe, and then that would then pulse from the switch acting just like the alarm. Wouldn't it? Does that make sense to you guys what I just said? I can draw up another diagram tomorrow maybe for this to explain better.
Moving on.
Down:
There will be another button in the dash (separate) for the down motion much like the up. However there's no need for delay or trunk pop on this one. With that there needs to be a second button in the trunk lid for closing the trunk.
These buttons will share a 12v wire and splice into the ORANGE / black + gray/black wires on side two of the DEI 529T. Before the splice on each switched 12v wire, a diode will be added for safety.
I think this is where I'm a little confused but maybe not. I don't think I need a switch wire on the white of the 529T because the switches I'm using are acting as the pulse on the ORANGE / black + gray/black wires. Is this correct?
Next the green motor wire from the DEI 529T connects to the black wire of the actuator.
This should allow me to close the trunk via the switch in the cabin or the switch in the trunk lid.
If I understand correctly, on the 529T, the orange + gray together should allow the continuous signal to the actuator with a pulsed signal. Same with the other side. Is this correct?
I look forward to your guys's feedback, and most likely corrections of this diagram. Thanks for everyone's time.
Actuator Diagram
scooter99 
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 2:26 AM / IP Logged  
Here's an altered version of the diagram without the Brown wire from the 529T connected to the switch as I said before.
Diagram B - No switch wire on 529
howie ll 
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 4:07 AM / IP Logged  
I've looked at those two diagrams, can the 529t be operated from a pulse (the grey and grey/black) rather than a constant (orange and ORANGE / black)?
If so you won't need the 528t, just switch the 529t from your relay.
scooter99 
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 7:58 PM / IP Logged  
The 528T wouldn't be just to operate the 529T, it's do delay the open function on the actuator till after the trunk latch opens. I want a 1 - 2 second delay, so that when I hit the open button, on the dash or on the remote, the trunk latch pops, one thousand one one thousand two, then the actuator opens. That's the only reason for the 528T.
howie ll 
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 8:13 PM / IP Logged  
OK, point taken.
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Posted: April 10, 2011 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged  
Yep this is absolutely right...
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scooter99 
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Posted: April 11, 2011 at 4:41 PM / IP Logged  
I just noticed something. On the down switches, does that need to be reversed to a (-) polarity before it goes into the DEI 529T?
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