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First Alarm, 97 Honda Civic


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howie ll 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 at 11:41 AM / IP Logged  
You should pick up the starter AFTER the clutch switch, but that's an assumption on my part because apart from some Toyotas we don't have them in Europe* maybe Kreg or KP can help here.
*That's the US version of our 'Elf and Safety jobsworthies.
zerovandez 
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There's an MTS (manual transmission mode) that these units must learn before using on a MT car. The remote start won't work unless I complete this processes. Hopefully, this process will bypass the clutch switch internally some how or maybe another user can chime in.

howie ll 
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No it won't. The switch has to "see" the clutch depressed.
Is there a BLACK/ white lead as one of the 2 coming out of that switch? If so cut it and wire you green starter input to the clutch switch side and your violet starter output to the other side.
zerovandez 
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I guess there's a BLUE and BLACK wire to the clutch switch which activates the ignition. When the clutch pedal is pressed, this switch completes a ground circuit. I suppose I can just join the 2 wires together and bypass the switch completely but I think that's pretty dangerous. Somehow I think a relay is needed here but I have not a clue how they work or if it's possible for this application lol.
howie ll 
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OK, disconnect the leads and see if the car still starts when you press in the clutch. If it doesn't you have the right wires.
Now check those wires with your DMM, one should be at ground the other go to ground when the clutch is depressed.
The one that goes to ground when the clutch is depressed, connect to your status output wire, A.K.A. Ground When Running or GWR wire. Job done.
If one measures 12V+ and the other goes top 12V+ when the switch is depressed, let me know.
zerovandez 
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Posted: May 27, 2011 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged  

Fact of the matter is that I'm not doing the install at the moment although I do have the car completely gutted. I'm gathering as much info as I can to prepare myself. So with everyones input, i'm able to make a better diagram as to where and how I should route things. I'm really "in-tune" with my car and can confirm that the clutch pedal wires are in fact grounding and true to color as I stated but I'll check later tonight when I'm home.

So on the REMOTE START AUX OUTPUT 5 PIN CONNECTOR, there is a blue wire labeled (-)200mA STATUS OUTPUT. I assume this is the lead that you're referring to. Does this need to splice into the "ground when depressed" wire? Or cut and rerouted?

Thanks for your patience and all of your help!

howie ll 
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Yes That blue "status output" wire goes to the wire that goes to ground when the clutch pedal is depressed. You can try to test this by grounding that wire, then see if you can start the car without depressing the clutch pedal having made sure you're in neutral first.
zerovandez 
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So this is what I have so far. Keep in mind these are just power wires according to what I'm reading from the install manual. Yes, I will add fuses. What do you all think?

First Alarm, 97 Honda Civic - Page 3 -- posted image.

zerovandez 
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Sorry, here's a bigger picture

First Alarm, 97 Honda Civic - Page 3 -- posted image.

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No. The H3 wires, Red, RED / White and RED / Black all go to +12 constant just like the H1/2 Red wire.
Soldering is fun!
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