ignition kill relay on alarm not working

Except no ignition override yet you say you've wired it in. BTW I was wrong, it's a UK company. A whole alarm for the price of some else's dual zone prox. Does that tell you anything?

I can't knock it for the price!! It's not exactly going on an Evo 8 or Impreza! I'll swap 87a and 30 around and let you know if it makes a difference.

OK, do that.

That won't change anything. You mentioned that it is only a 4 pin relay. I have never seen a 4 pin relay that had an 87a (normally closed). All 4 pin relays I've seen are normally closed relays and will not work for your need. YOu must get a 5 pin relay and connect the 87a and 30 terminals.Kenny

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KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

Actually Kenny some POS Chinese alarms have those relays, 87a and no 87, that's why I thought the OP's alarm was Chinese other wise he hasn't looked or wired it properly just like his wrong assumption with the ignition wire. The wiring is probably all wrong, hence no ignition override, just like a colour blind person with dyslexia failing to test and verify.

Wow... I've never seen a 4 pin relay with an 87a. Gotta love those Chinese POS systems. Regardless what vehicle the system is going into, I'm sure the car is worth more than the $100 or so you are saving. By cheaping out on the system, you run a very high risk of frying your electrical system when the system fails (not if, when). You will end up paying for that little bit you saved plus some. It's worth it to get a quality system and never have to worry about it.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

The 87a and 30 were wired correctly - 87a was keyside and 30 was starter side. The wire to the alarm from the relay doesn't ground when armed. It's positive. Think that's why the relay is always on.

Every other alarm known to me except Scorpion 20 years ago and the Irish CEL had a NEG output when armed. Pull the wire from the alarm, arm the alarm and see if it either goes to ground (-) 0v or to 12V+. If it goes to 12v+, that wire goes to 86 and you ground 85. Or RTFM.

No,sorry that won't work either you've definitely wired something wrong. Could you copy and paste the alarm's wiring or just type them out wire colours and the alarm manufacturer's list? The very fact that you can activate the alarm tells me you've done something wrong here. Also offroadjz post about cheap alarms, he's absolutely right, back in the day Rolls Royce only used Clifford Alarms and Alpine Audio, so do most installers, does that tell you anything?

By the way there's also an easier way to immobilise a 2000 Fiesta. Look at the fuse box, a fuse marked I believe "engine" control, or engine relay control pull that or cut the output and she's a dead-un.