advancedkeys problem

That might work as a work around, but I still think you are connecting to the wrong side of the keysense wire which is causing your issue. This will negate that by simply re-connecting the keysense through the relay rather than providing an external ground to the keysense. Did you ever re-pin, cut, and test that keysense wire?Kenny

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KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

So I should connect the AK GWR to the side that is on the ignition connector to test. The wire from the vehicle goes into the connector that is connected to the steering column which is the wire I am using. At that point it terminates at the steering column. I can test the other side and report back.

Connecting to the other side provides a constant ground. Doors do not lock or unlock when cycling the button presses however the factory alarm is triggered and the DBALL does not turn off when the car is off. All the symptoms a constant ground. I definitely as far as I am concerned had the correct side before. I typed out an entire report on that worked and what didn't connected 3 different ways and for some reason it did not update the site. Aaaargh

No, before making any connections you should just test with a meter. The keysense wire should show ground when a key is inserted into the cylinder (not turned). Then it should lose that ground when you remove the key. Use the meter to determine which side is showing ground with the key in the cylinder... that will be the key side. The other side is where you want the connection to go.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

It appears as if the relay will resolve the issue. With the Keysense only being activated when the push start module is in the ON/Start/Run modes the DBALL will be activated to allow the AK to start the car. Question I have here is does the AK GWR still need to be connected to the vehicle Keysense wire AND DBALL GWR? or just have the Keysense supply the ground to the DBALL, seems like they will be performing the same function. When the car is off the Keysense is disconnected, the DBALL will be powered off, the key warning will not display, the DBALL will Disarm and Re-arm on remote start and the Viper domelight supervision works. This has been tested by severing the factory keysense. Only thing I don't know if it will resolve the locking issue everytime the AK ACC mode is cycled through, something tells me it will.

Meant to say something tell me it won't resolve the lock issue.

The key was never removed from the cylinder when testing, you are correct the ground is only there when the key is inserted.

I had already tested the wire, with the key in the ignition and the door open... If I connect vehicle ground to the wire I removed from the connector it triggers the key warning/welcome display in the vehicle. From what I recall connecting vehicle ground to the connector pin (keyside) it did nothing.

I visited your website, lot's of sport bikes on your lot. Do you ride?

Those are all friends bikes.. most of which I've done work on. My bike is the black Yamaha Stryker. I must have missed where you had already tested the keysense.. I wanted to check that first because if I recall, the connector where you find the keysense is going into an actual module. One some cars, the keysense in an input to that module instead of an output. Go ahead and try wiring in the relay, it's possible that the ground from the AK is not strong enough to trigger the keysense and therefore the relay will just connect the factory wiring. If you connect the relay, then the AK GWR will only have to be connected to the DBALL.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205