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physiphreak 
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Posted: June 08, 2014 at 3:13 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote physiphreak
I have a Viper 5706v that I am going to install on my 2005 crew cab Chevy Silverado. I understand that the information for this is limited. I have the connector pinout list that came with the 5706 as well as the vehicle wiring information obtained from this site. I am looking for any information anyone can provide that will assist in this install. Also, which module would be best for my situation?2005 Silverado Viper 5706v -- posted image.
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Posted: June 08, 2014 at 3:53 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

Limited info?  Heck, you came to right place.  Here is a link to the full Viper 5706 install guide :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1250

The Silverado is similar to many other GM vehicles.  Here is a link to a Pictorial on a 2003 Tahoe :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133000    The wires are the same.

As for the bypass module, there are many excellent ones to choose from.  I'm still a bit old school, so I prefer to go

W2W with the connections between the R/S and the bypass module instead of using the D2D port.  Going with W2W
and assuming you don't have a XLoader2 cable to flash a bypass module, I would suggest a taking a look at the
DLPKGM or the Fortin OEM piece, the INT-SL+.  Here is a link to the DLPKGM bypass module's install guide : 
http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=6027&productid=125&firmwareid=1633
Here is a link to the Fortin INT-SL+ module :  http://fortin.ca/download/3966/int-sl%2B_installation_guide.rev-20120308.pdf

With an alarm system, the bypass module does not supply the rear door trigger(s), so that will have to be hard wired.

Soldering is fun!
physiphreak 
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Posted: June 08, 2014 at 6:41 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote physiphreak
Thanks for the quick response!!
so it looks like both modules are about the same and they will allow to take full advantage of the options such as heated seats, rear defrost, in addition to the passlock bypass. I thought these newer modules would allow full door control? would I need to go with another module such as the 457G?
Also, a bit confused on the "advantages" of D2D vs W2W. what would be the benefit of having the ability to flash the module?
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Posted: June 08, 2014 at 7:11 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

I have never used a 457G module, so I am not sure if it will supply the rear door triggers.  I use iDatalink modules like

the one listed in the Pictorial.  ( This install was for a R/S w/keyless entry only - no alarm functions - and did not need or
use door triggers.  The iDatalink bypass modules install guide specifically states that they do not supply the rear door
triggers for that application.  I am not positive about the INT-SL+ or DLPKGM modules but think they are the same as the
iDatalink modules in that respect.  You would have to test after installation to be sure. 

If you don't have the XKLoaded2 cable, you would not be able to flash certain XpressKit bypass modules ( DB-ALL, etc )

and would need to get a pre-flashed module like the INT-SL+ or DLPKGM suggested.  You might be able to find a dealer
that would sell you the module after flashing the correct firmware.

If you found a bypass module for your application that used Directed's DBI communication protocol on it's D2D port, you

could make the install easier ( less wire connections between the bypass module and the Viper ) going with D2D.   As you
can see in the Pictorial, the W2W method was used and all the R/S to bypass connections were hardwired.  This takes
longer but provides excellent reliability and makes troubleshooting easy.   Many installers use D2D and swear by it.
Personally, the few times I have tried D2D, I was disappointed.  

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Posted: June 09, 2014 at 11:02 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote blanx218
I have yet to find a module that detects the rear door triggers on any GM full size truck or SUV. But I agree with Kreg that buying a module that doesnt need flashed will make things easier for you. and I also agree that W2W is more reliable.
physiphreak 
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Posted: July 03, 2014 at 4:12 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote physiphreak
thanks for the great info! I think I will go with the DLPKGM module and hard wire it w2w, that sounds more reliable. Now with that setup how will I wire in the 24-pin connector? that part still confuses me. Will all that be controlled through the DLPKGM module on pin 2 of the OBD2 connector?
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Posted: July 03, 2014 at 8:01 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357

The DLPKGM does a lot for you, but not everything.  In W2W mode, follow the wiring diagram marked "without D2D" on

the lower half of the DLPKGM Install Guide page.  You won't need Trunk and Unlock Driver2.  Remember to set the Viper's
Parking Light Output to (-) via the internal jumper/fuse to correctly interface with the DLPKGM.

Harness, 24-pin connector

1 PNK/WHITE (-) 200mA Ignition 2/Flex OUTPUT         Not Used
2 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOG OUTPUT       Not Used
3 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT Not Used
4 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT Not Used
5 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT    DLPKGM Blue/White
6 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT    Not Used
7 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT   Not Used
8 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT   Not Used
9 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO)      Viper Kit supplied Hood Pin
10 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O)      *Use for REAR Door Pins
11 WHITE/ BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT Not Used
12 VIOLET/WHITE* TACHOMETER INPUT      White (AC) @ Rear of Instrument Panel or DLPKGM Violet/White
13 BLACK/ WHITE** (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE INPUT              Chassis Ground ( if Auto Trans ) 
14 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     Not Used
15 GREEN* (-) DOOR INPUT   DLPKGM  Green
16 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT Black (-)  BCM, gray plug, pin B9  (optional)
17 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT          Not Used
18 VIOLET* (+) DOOR INPUT Not Used  
19 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT Not Used
20 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT     White (+)  brake switch
21 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT     Not Used
22 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT   Not Used
23 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT   Not Used
24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT Not Used

 LR Latch  LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK  (-)      IN PASSENGERS DOOR MODULE  

 RR Latch  LIGHT BLUE/BLACK  (-)         IN PASSENGERS DOOR MODULE
        or
 On 4-Door Trucks the LEFT REAR Door is a LT BLUE/BLACK (-) PIN A3 and the  RIGHT REAR Door is a
 LT GREEN/ BLACK (-) PIN A2, located in a PURPLE PLUG at the  BCM, use both wires and diode isolate
 when installing an alarm system ( 1N4001 diode with band away from the Viper ).  

Soldering is fun!
derrik86 
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Posted: November 25, 2016 at 11:39 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote derrik86
kreg357 wrote:

The DLPKGM does a lot for you, but not everything.  In W2W mode, follow the wiring diagram marked "without D2D" on

the lower half of the DLPKGM Install Guide page.  You won't need Trunk and Unlock Driver2.  Remember to set the Viper's
Parking Light Output to (-) via the internal jumper/fuse to correctly interface with the DLPKGM.

Harness, 24-pin connector

1 PNK/WHITE (-) 200mA Ignition 2/Flex OUTPUT Not Used
2 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOG OUTPUT    Not Used
3 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT        Not Used
4 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUT        Not Used
5 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT DLPKGM Blue/White
6 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT Not Used
7 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT        Not Used
8 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT      Not Used
9 GRAY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (NC OR NO) Viper Kit supplied Hood Pin
10 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O)   *Use for REAR Door Pins
11 WHITE/ BLUE ACTIVATION INPUT     Not Used
12 VIOLET/WHITE* TACHOMETER INPUT White (AC) @ Rear of Instrument Panel or DLPKGM Violet/White
13 BLACK/ WHITE** (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY /PARKING BRAKE INPUT  Chassis Ground ( if Auto Trans ) 
14 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUT     Not Used
15 GREEN* (-) DOOR INPUT    DLPKGM  Green
16 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT Black (-)  BCM, gray plug, pin B9  (optional)
17 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT Not Used
18 VIOLET* (+) DOOR INPUT   Not Used   
19 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT        Not Used
20 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT  White (+)  brake switch
21 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT Not Used
22 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT  Not Used
23 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT      Not Used
24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUT         Not Used

 LR Latch  LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK  (-)      IN PASSENGERS DOOR MODULE  

 RR Latch  LIGHT BLUE/BLACK  (-)         IN PASSENGERS DOOR MODULE
        or
 On 4-Door Trucks the LEFT REAR Door is a LT BLUE/BLACK (-) PIN A3 and the  RIGHT REAR Door is a
 LT GREEN/ BLACK (-) PIN A2, located in a PURPLE PLUG at the  BCM, use both wires and diode isolate
 when installing an alarm system ( 1N4001 diode with band away from the Viper ).  

so if one is using the gmdlbp with the viper 5706. should you hook the rear door triggers from the bcm directly to the viper alarm ? or hook the rear door triggers to the GMDLBP pink wire then use the GMDLBP pink and white wire connected to the viper door trigger input wire ? I just installed the 5706 in my 06 Silverado and my dome lights do not get triggered by the doors anymore. they will turn on manually or when the alarm is disabled but turn off after a timed delay and with all 4 door open lights are still off.. this alarm install has kicked my rear for weeks now

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