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speedwayaudio1 
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I think that if the guy thinks he got a good deal, and he likes the way it sounds, then he did get a good deal. Sound is in the ear of the beholder. What sounds good to him might sound like that turd you guys talked about to someone else. The number one reason for Car Audio is to make ourselves happy with the hobbie we all love. If cheap stuff makes you happy then by all means knock your self out. If you want to spend a mint then have a ball. Remember one mans turd is anothers.................. Well you know. That's my cent and a half.Audiobahn Haters! - Page 4 -- posted image.
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boxmaker85 wrote:

LOL archemedes good point.  Prefabs are for best buy people.

Hey amiyourmystery, all my roomies are from Albany.  I'll pm you and see if you know them.

I take great offense to that....Give us the labor and resources to build custom boxes and we would....a 17 yr old who drives a 95 buick skylark who is looking to put some subs in his car really isnt concerned about the box...Yea boxes make a difference to someone who A) looking for competition quality 2)has the money Get real dude not everyone kid wants a nice fiberglass box or has one idea how to build one...Hence why we sell already made boxes.

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I have found that the reason "most",but not all installers hate pre-fab boxes is that they didn't get to charge $400 for $40 worth of mdf, glue, and staples.The shops in my area charge ungodly amounts of money to build a box. Yes a custom box is the best, but not everone can afford a custom.I work alone so If I build a box I have to charge  at least $300 for the time. On the other hand I can sell them a pre-fab for $100 or less and they are happy as a kid in a candy store. I can't say this enough some people don't have $2000 to spend on a system. And they don't want to wait 6 months to a year to save that kind of money. Remember "best buy people" love this hobby too, and should not be looked down on because they go to Best Buy, or Circuit City, Wal-mart, flea market booth, etc........    

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speedwayaudio1 wrote:

I have found that the reason "most",but not all installers hate pre-fab boxes is that they didn't get to charge $400 for $40 worth of mdf, glue, and staples.

 

Actually, I hate the way they sound. Personally I can make more money installing 2-3 alarms in the same time it takes to build 1 enclosure. Most shops in my area will charge a minimum $250 for a basic sealed box and the largest retailer only pays the installer 25-50 for a custom box.
One more thing, come on $40 in materials? More like $25 in materials at wholesale.
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... which is all why I don't work in retail ..
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auex wrote:
speedwayaudio1 wrote:

I have found that the reason "most",but not all installers hate pre-fab boxes is that they didn't get to charge $400 for $40 worth of mdf, glue, and staples.

 

Actually, I hate the way they sound. Personally I can make more money installing 2-3 alarms in the same time it takes to build 1 enclosure. Most shops in my area will charge a minimum $250 for a basic sealed box and the largest retailer only pays the installer 25-50 for a custom box.
One more thing, come on $40 in materials? More like $25 in materials at wholesale.
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mdf must be cheap where you come from.
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Houston , Tx.    4 X 8 mdf = $30.............1 tube clear silicone = $5 ..............3 lbs. 3" brads = $5 ................4 X 6 trunk liner carpet = $30 ..............1 can spray adheasive = $13   $83 to build a box for 2 - 12" subs.   Blowing away the Best Buy Box............Priceless.......ha-ha , joking

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I build box's every day for $150. That is 3/4 MDF, carpeted, sealed or ported. If the ones at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. won't fit; will they build one for you? If people run the installers out of business by using these chain stores, who will you go to when you need a professional?  
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Yeah prefabs are for 17 yearold kids who just want to try and sound cool but are you or I or most of the otherguys on this forum 17 yo kids?  Uh... probably not.  I just did 2 boxes off of one sheet mdf ($22), screws, caulk, glue, spray paint (cheap finish but...) all bout $40ish bucks.  Now two 12" boxes for let's say $45 compared to two boxes from best buy that run $160?  Hm.... Now that bestbuy price sounds like a chunk of money that I could do a custom fg install with.  And look a heck of a lot better than mdf.  Supradude here could build boxes for only $100 and still make some decent profit off of it himself.

And no offence but by the time a kid's got all his equipment from bestbuy (let's say 2 12" subs) and everything installed he could get a small fg install done (a single 10") for close to the same price.  And they would both probably sound bout the same as far as sq and spl (might be a little less on this but close).

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