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punkbastard 
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Posted: June 27, 2006 at 3:09 AM / IP Logged  
Just thought I would post a little comment about this as the thought of running that kind of system with no fuses or circuit breakers boggles my mind and yet I can see how he feels protected with the set-up he has.  There is a certain SPL vehicle I have seen first hand that set the world record.  Now, I dont know all the circumstances surrounding the event but it was loaded up on to a trailer to be taken to a comp., something went wrong, vehicle came off the trailer and caught on fire.  This vehicle was not designed to be driven on the road and therefore possibly it was not deemed necessary to protect the wire.  However, sh** happened, and much was lost and it needs to be rebuilt.  It costed god knows how much time and money for this shop, thankfully no lives though.  Nobody, including this guy, has any idea what the future holds or what kind of accidents and hardhips we might face.  All we can do is take every possible precaution to prepare and protect ourselves for it.  I just hope that nothing happens to this guy or anybody else. 
dragon51 
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How friggin stupid, you should not be allowed to enter the lanes with out the proper fuese protection at any event! That endangers's everone who is watching the event, should it go up in smoke, why dose it take someone getting hurt befor they make those types of changes.

And that kid call's says he's a pro installer (ummm bullshs) That is why I did my own work

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My buddy drives a rollback wrecker, he picks up wrecks for the ins. companies. I ride with him some times, and we pick up lot's of burned out cars. A lot of them burned from not running fuses or breakers. It's a shame to see all that carnage. Ngsm13 Welcome to the forum always glade to see new people here.
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Posted: June 27, 2006 at 8:53 AM / IP Logged  

ngsm13 wrote:
Also, learn to spell. *EDITED*.

Read the forum rules. There's a reason why words are mistakenly spelled wrong because you can not use them on this forum. Please keep crude remarks off the12volt.

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this is why i always preach only fusing the primary high enough for the total system requirements.... why have a 250-300 amp ANL at the battery if your total system current draw is only 110 amps??

we've had the "what does the primary fuse protect?" debate here before.... and this is a good example of why it pays to be possibly over-cautious when fusing systems..... me personally, i'd rather replace a blown primary fuse once or twice a year than risk burning my vehicle down......

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Well, I am working on becoming a guru of car audio, specializing in interior and fiberglassing at the moment.

I am glad I check our fellow Car Audio section today, instead of just lounging over in Fiberglass and Interiors.

I will definately be fuse crazy from now on.

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electrostatic 
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kgerry wrote:

this is why i always preach only fusing the primary high enough for the total system requirements.... why have a 250-300 amp ANL at the battery if your total system current draw is only 110 amps??

we've had the "what does the primary fuse protect?" debate here before.... and this is a good example of why it pays to be possibly over-cautious when fusing systems..... me personally, i'd rather replace a blown primary fuse once or twice a year than risk burning my vehicle down......

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dstang24 
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punkbastard wrote:
Just thought I would post a little comment about this as the thought of running that kind of system with no fuses or circuit breakers boggles my mind and yet I can see how he feels protected with the set-up he has.  There is a certain SPL vehicle I have seen first hand that set the world record.  Now, I dont know all the circumstances surrounding the event but it was loaded up on to a trailer to be taken to a comp., something went wrong, vehicle came off the trailer and caught on fire.  This vehicle was not designed to be driven on the road and therefore possibly it was not deemed necessary to protect the wire.  However, sh** happened, and much was lost and it needs to be rebuilt.  It costed god knows how much time and money for this shop, thankfully no lives though.  Nobody, including this guy, has any idea what the future holds or what kind of accidents and hardhips we might face.  All we can do is take every possible precaution to prepare and protect ourselves for it.  I just hope that nothing happens to this guy or anybody else. 

The series of batteries was what started the fire... They used a different trailer than they normally did and apparently the static from this trailer was the initial culpret.  There is good reason that this particular vehicle has a $1M insurance policy on it :-).

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punkbastard 
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Posted: June 27, 2006 at 12:39 PM / IP Logged  
dstang24 wrote:

The series of batteries was what started the fire... They used a different trailer than they normally did and apparently the static from this trailer was the initial culpret.  There is good reason that this particular vehicle has a $1M insurance policy on it :-).

I was wondering if you would provide your input here buddy.  I new that you would know the real reason it did burn instead of me just guessing.  I would still have to assume though that if the wires were fused properly than it would not have caught fire.  No knocking them, as has been said many times in this post it is common practice in SPL vehicles to not fuse.  Just used this one as an example of  "when disaster strikes"!

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29 years, over 42,000 cars done. You NEVER run power leads without a fuse, PERIOD. And to our new member from the other forum, I still learn things everyday on this forum and one of the most knowledgable guys is Rob at Forbidden so mind your manners. I read the thread on your forum and seems like insulting people happens much more then exchanging ideas. This place is a tool just like any other one in your box, it saves you time and money. Use it wisely.
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