bazzgazm wrote:
Honestly. you sound like you're complaining about stuff you don't understand. |
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Honestly if you put yourself in my perspective, you can't deny the fact that I was totally unhappy and completely wized off.
1) the 1-way remote I paid off ebay for afterward
2) the antenna not being centered
3) the power trunk is worse off then before
bazzgazm wrote:
alot of wires in alarms are not used on every install. Understand what they do before you complain about it |
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Not used when they are lazy. Domelight, I don't care. But trunk trigger and horn output and starer kill, a must! The H2 harness I really see it optional, but they have gotta provide me with that in case I need to enable something in the future. In fact, I really need channel 4 and 5 outputs from H2 very soon.
bazzgazm wrote:
it sounds like you expected custom work on a budget price |
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Please don't read my previous message partially. I never said I want anyone else to do those relocation, I said DIY.
captainzab wrote:
he asked for the Clifford 10.5x but they went ahead and installed the 3.5 claiming it is better |
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I didn't really care 3.5 or 10.5, I care the extra 1-way remote, period. In fact, I thought 3.5 was better because of the remote start feature. Never thought that a higher model has one fewer remote.
captainzab wrote:
And for them to say that that is how it works instead of fixing it is bull |
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I already give up on them. They don't seem to have the talent to fix it anyhow. Someday when I fully understand the trunk release mechanism I will try to fix it myself.
xtremej wrote:
If you wanted a 10.5 than you should not accept a 3.5 period |
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I didn't really accept it but the manager insisted 3.5 a higher model and cost $100 more and all misrepresentation he told me. Beside, the installation was already completed by that time. Tell them to remove everything and keep my $200 deposit?
xtremej wrote:
As far as the workmanship that is different from shop to shop |
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I fully buy this. I am not trying to blame them but myself for choosing the wrong shop.
xtremej wrote:
Last but not least I would go this shop and request to speak with manager or owner and stay level head to work out a resolution |
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I've been talking to that person, the owner, calmly so far because I was afraid they charge extra for this and that.
xtremej wrote:
maybe a partial refund or they agree to repair the problems stated |
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After the 2nd time I took my car back there for the trunk problem, I gave up on them. I didn't think they are capable to put my trunk back to the previous working state anyway.
Chris Luongo wrote:
basic install generally has the alarm brain and its wiring neatly and carefully affixed to the car, not falling down on your feet, etc |
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Neatly or not, I really don't care. I didn't expect everyone's bedroom is as clean as mine. If mine gets messy and have someone to clean it, that isn't free. So I don't mind to clean up their left over mess for my own comfort.
Chris Luongo wrote:
I haven't seen your windshield, but I fully believe you that they just slapped it up there wherever |
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I should take a pic of that tomorrow and let everyone sees it.
Chris Luongo wrote:
it's up to you and the shop to agree on what features will be connected, and that's naturally going to affect the price..you are asking for a LOT of stuff for a regular install |
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You say, spending $565 on car alarm is not a lot of money and 3.5X is average or above average alarm? They didn't discuss those with me at all. Just because I didn't remind them, therefore they have the excuse to be lazy? If I knew all the features and which does what, I'd install it myself.
Asking for a lot? Just trunk trigger and horn output and starer kill. Like I said, brain and antenna relocation, I don't trust them anymore even they offer to do it for free. The relocation takes time, and quite costly for labor, I knew that. With patient and all that, DIY is the best.
kgerry wrote:
it is a little uncool of you to be ripping through their wiring trying to psycho-analyze whether they did a good wiring job or not |
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I didn't mean to analyze their wiring job. While DIY adding a door lock switch, I removed the fuse cover and brain just dropped off right in front of my face. Without knowing how they wired it up, how can I DIY to add/enable features?
kgerry wrote:
many features on many models are unused.. and extras are - well - EXTRA |
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If it was a cheap alarm, I'd not expect them to enable any extra features, if there are on cheap alarms. But since everyone's taste may vary, I have no complain on that and I will just DIY to add/enable features.
kgerry wrote:
it's all about compromise and remaining calm |
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I've been calm to them at least till now. But too late is too late, they held my deposit, on the very first day after the install, it was already too late.
Some of you really misunderstand my points.
1) I got ripped off, I admitted it, so face it and live with it. I no longer care since my 2nd trip there for trunk problem.
2) Work ethic standard or guideline on car alarm install, is there really such a thing? I don't care. I chose the wrong shop, I blame myself.
Please note, I am not referring to the wires not being wired, but the trunk problem and sloppy antenna mounting. They are liable on troubles they caused.
3) Don't even think that I'm trying to tell the whole world that alarm installers are all evil then you are trying to defend the people from the same industry.
4) What I've decided to do: I don't want that shop to TOUCH my car anymore, I don't trust their sloppy works any longer. I want to DIY (or get someone else if I can't handle) to enable additional features and do the brain+antenna relocation. I will go to that shop tomorrow and get my H2 harness back which they stole from me. Yeah right H2 harness not needed/used, so they keep it?
5) Please read the very last paragraph on my very first post of this thread. You see, no complaining in the very place. I just wanted to complete the install myself plus some additional features, and asking for everyone's opinion which feature would you consider a must, a standard, or optional. Keep saying some are extras without specifying explicitly which feature doesn't help at all.