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wvsquirrel 
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Ok, you wanted them you got them!
Base Models taken directly from the Monster Audio DMX Manual
whats the best way to wire 6 subs - Page 3 -- posted image.
These images are 100% accurate (unless Monster Audio screwed up their manual)
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Manipulated Base Models (accuracy UNKNOWN)
whats the best way to wire 6 subs - Page 3 -- posted image.
Please let me know if the Manipulated Base Models are accurate. I've never done 6 1ohm QVC's before so please be gentle whats the best way to wire 6 subs - Page 3 -- posted image. I'm more than happy to modify them if you tell me where the error's are.
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squirrel, you rock. I am too burnt right now to determine the accuracy but knowing you they are on the money. I am seeing double looking at all those lines, lol, I installed 4 huge audio systems between yesterday and today as well as sattelite systems, bluetooth interfaces, security etc., I am not too alert right now. The good news is I am off tomorrow, will sleep like a rock but I have 2 cars of my own under construction that need attention....does it EVER end???

The last install I just got home from was a conversion van,6 speaker with amps plus sub ,sirius, multimedia, switching systems for headphones in the back, basically a clusterf^%k. In addition another installer started the job and had to leave right after he tore it apart so I got to figure out how to put humpty dumpty back together again on my own ,and this vehicle had very little of it's stock interior since it was a conversion..........But I love it.

But once again I am impressed. I'll try to verify the diagrams when I can see straight again.

Peace.

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Also, when I posted what I believe these subs can be wire for as far as ohm load I was talking about each individual sub on it's own. Not all six as I have not the patience at the time. Thank you again for the posting those diagrams.
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Another Manipulated Base Model (accuracy UNKNOWN)
whats the best way to wire 6 subs - Page 3 -- posted image.
If I did this one correctly it should be around a 1.5ohm load.
Again, please let me know if any of these are drawn incorrectly.
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Why does it feel like I'm looking at circuit boards? *laughing*
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Because thats pretty much what a circuit board can look like on paper. *laughing too*    I can just imagine the disasters happening with unskilled back yarders trying to wire up quad voice coils. As it is I only know a small handful of DYI'ers that can even wire a DVC correctly, much less understand the difference between an amp rated @ 2 ohm stereo vs. 2 ohm mono. But still, its a fun business.
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I spent years tracing circuits and looking at wiring and circuit diagrams when I was a C-130 Turbopropulsion Specialist. So I rather enjoyed the flashback *laughing*
I learned my basic stereo knowledge from trial and error, the rest I learned here by reading back posts. When I joined in '02 I had no idea what a DVC was, nor did I know anything about the proper ways to match subs to amps (ohms, wattage, etc), proper wiring methodologies, or much else for that matter. This forum has increased my knowledge at least 10-fold over the years, and to a dedicated DIY'er that's enormous!
So I enjoy challenges like this because I get to show myself just how much I've learned (assuming that I did the 4 diagrams correctly *laughing*)
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Was there anything else you needed? I hope those diagrams helped! And I would love to hear that system hit!
Since I gave you a diagram for 6 QVC's wired to a 2ohm load, I would try that with one of your current amps first. If you don't like they way it hits then try the 6 QVC's at a 1.5ohm load (again assuming that I did them correctly).
If all else fails and you are still not impressed, then spend the money and get the second amp and run 3 QVC's per amp at a 1ohm load. But I would only do that if I was severely dissappointed with the sound.
You may find that you need a H/O alternator as well, and don't forget to beef up the Big Three (as Dyohn puts it!)
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Please look at those diagrams, I am dieing to know if I actually did them all correctly!
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wvsquirrel wrote:
I spent years tracing circuits and looking at wiring and circuit diagrams when I was a C-130 Turbopropulsion Specialist. So I rather enjoyed the flashback *laughing*
I learned my basic stereo knowledge from trial and error, the rest I learned here by reading back posts. When I joined in '02 I had no idea what a DVC was, nor did I know anything about the proper ways to match subs to amps (ohms, wattage, etc), proper wiring methodologies, or much else for that matter. This forum has increased my knowledge at least 10-fold over the years, and to a dedicated DIY'er that's enormous!
So I enjoy challenges like this because I get to show myself just how much I've learned (assuming that I did the 4 diagrams correctly *laughing*)
Skylark:
Was there anything else you needed? I hope those diagrams helped! And I would love to hear that system hit!
Since I gave you a diagram for 6 QVC's wired to a 2ohm load, I would try that with one of your current amps first. If you don't like they way it hits then try the 6 QVC's at a 1.5ohm load (again assuming that I did them correctly).
If all else fails and you are still not impressed, then spend the money and get the second amp and run 3 QVC's per amp at a 1ohm load. But I would only do that if I was severely dissappointed with the sound.
You may find that you need a H/O alternator as well, and don't forget to beef up the Big Three (as Dyohn puts it!)
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Please look at those diagrams, I am dieing to know if I actually did them all correctly!

thanks im gonna go with the 2 ohm one first, its kinda of confusing but after looking at the graphs i went into my garage and placed the subs by each other then took a spool of wire out and did a walk thru to make sure i can do it, but dont have enough speaker wire lol. But its gonna work, im gonna have to drill some holes in the enlosure and then seal the holes after i put the speaker wire thru. This should work and bang perfect

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A turbopropropulsion specialist, now thats someone you don't meet eveyday. Must have been quite an experience. And you seem to be getting the audio stuff down well enough and it is good that a DIY'er can learn so much from a public forum,

When I was in high school I had a summer job at my friends fathers factory. He was manufacturing "illegal" CB radio amplifiers or what they call "linears". After we assembled the circuit boards, tested and adjusted the rf and cleaned the power with a scope, they were sent out of the country and then sent back to us packaged as "TVI filters". What a sham, I wonder if that guy is still in business or in jail, i don't know it's been a while.

But I soldered circuit boards about 6 hours a day, 5 days a week for 2 months. I still don't know if it caused brain damage but wouldn't be surprised *laughing.  Whats funny is that by the end of the summer I was bored with the linears so I started soldering together small sculptures using wire and putting small flashing leds on them. I made jeeps and trucks and dragsters. Well it ends up everyone liked them so much I couldn't make them fast enough to meet demand. I was making more money building those the the linears, and I was on my bosses time and using his equipment and materials. Ah..those were the days.

I still have to check out the ohm loads on those diagrams but I haven't the motivation *laughing But I still am impressed as heck how those came out.

Speak again soon

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