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hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 18, 2006 at 4:28 PM / IP Logged  

i did some digging around... it sounds like i have a Reverse Polarity unlock/lock system... im still not 100% sure about everything yet, but i think i will figure it out .. let me know if i was right about that..  i kind of want to fix this now, but it is only 47 degrees out..   this site is awesome.  thanks for the diagrams and other info

hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 18, 2006 at 8:39 PM / IP Logged  
wow.. im really confussed...   does anyone know how to install keyless entry on a mustang (1988)  im 100% sure that this system is REverse polatiry..
LEFT DOOR
 pink/black  + when you hit unlock
                      normally -
Pink/Oragne + when you hit lock
                       normally -
RIGHT DOOR
pink/green  + when you hit unlock
                     normally -
pink / YELLOW  + when you hit lock
                      normally -
BOTH DOORS
Black,  + always +
what i got to work with is 2 relays that are on my alarm ..
white wire   (87a) lock relay  (normally closed)
green wire   (30) lock relay (common)
Blue Wire     (30) unlock relay (common)
Brown wire   (87a) Unlock Relay (normally closed)
Violet wire    (87)  lock/unlock relays  (normally open)
please let me know.. im going to try and figure this out.. but please let me know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have alot of homework this week, and time is running out.. mostliky i have to work on it over thanksgiving break.. let me know!!! thanks!!!
hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 18, 2006 at 9:11 PM / IP Logged  
hmmm... tel me if this sound right..
hook the pink/black wire and the Pink/green wire together and hook it on the common (lock) end of the relay
hook the pink/oragne  and the pink / YELLOW to the commen (unlock)
and hook the normally open to the 12v +
 
and the normally closed (both) to the - (ground)
it still sounds like it will short out..
it really really sounds like it will just short out
 but that also seems like the only way to do it??? 
please let me know!!!!!!!
i dont want to wreck my locks and stuff on my car
!! 
once i get this all done with, ill take some pictures... !! its pretty nifty on the inside..  
faded808 
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Posted: November 19, 2006 at 3:27 PM / IP Logged  
what kind of alarm do you have?
hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 19, 2006 at 5:33 PM / IP Logged  
i spent all day triing to figure it out.. haha.. i guess i was wrong..
i have a  ASTRA ASTRA600 6-Relay Car Alarm with 5-Button Remote
there are 2 relays that control the doors.  the same us above.. 
 white wire   (87a) lock relay  (normally closed)
green wire   (30) lock relay (common)
Blue Wire     (30) unlock relay (common)
Brown wire   (87a) Unlock Relay (normally closed)
Violet wire    (87)  lock/unlock relays  (normally open)
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can you tell me how you did it??
right now im working with the wires under my right dash.. i removed that panel there, and i cut each of the wires for the door..
pink/black 
Pink/Oragne
pink/green 
pink / YELLOW 
each one is then run up to my system.. so there is a todal of 8 wires there.. (each one is cut in half)
my problem is that it just shorts out becuase the locks stay on the grounded side.. im kinda getting mad now.. haha..
how did you hook the system up to your mustang?
how did you system work? like mine? 
it doesnt seem to make sence becuase sometimes the same wires are +12 when you hit lock and +12 when you hit unlock.. and normally - .. so i dont know.. im sure if i fiddle with it more i will get it, but also im scared of wrecking something, or killing my battery.. becuase im just working outside, and it is way cold.. so the heater is blasting..  and the lights are all on.. ... i am glad i got everything else working, just not the locks..  i dont know if i said it before, but i got a 1988 mustang lx 
faded808 
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Posted: November 20, 2006 at 5:00 AM / IP Logged  
i just followed the relay diagram here on the site.. you have original power locks right? the 88 should be the same wires as my 87...
ill see if i can get what wires go to in each relay
faded808 
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Posted: November 20, 2006 at 5:12 AM / IP Logged  
k,
here is what mine is wired...
RELAY 1:
86 - ALARM UNLOCK WIRE
87A - PINK/LIGHT GREEN (SWITCH)
30 - PINK/LIGHT GREEN (MOTOR)
87,85 - 12+ V FUSED
RELAY 2:
86,87 - 12+ V FUSED
87A - Pink / YELLOW (SWITCH)
30 - Pink / YELLOW (MOTOR)
85 - ALARM LOCK WIRE
---------------------------------------------------------
ON RELAYS 1&2 YOU CAN CONNECT THE 87,86,87,85 12+ V FUSED TO ONE WIRE...
Im not to familiar with you alarm so yea...
hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 20, 2006 at 2:39 PM / IP Logged  
thanks alot.. ill see if that works... it sounds like it should. 
the only thing, where did you splice in? i am after the door.. i spliced in write between the doors.   did you cut your wires in half? i guess if u did, then you would be working in the door right?  to control the motor.    ill try it useing the wires i have from under my dash right now.. and see how that works..  but anyway.. thanks alot!! it saved me alot of time
hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 20, 2006 at 6:25 PM / IP Logged  
it just blows the fuse... let me guess.. did you do your connections in the door? i followed how u said it, but i just blowes.. i checked my relay, it seems okay yet..   your way makes sence, but on my system (atleast the wires im useing) the wire stays grouned, and when it adds that positive sorce it just blowes..  do both your doors unlock? or just one of them?   what do u mean by (switch) (motor)  .. i really am thinking you did the connections in your door.. haha..  how easy was it to run those wires ?  well anyway thanks for all your help..
hotmilk400 
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Posted: November 20, 2006 at 7:26 PM / IP Logged  
if u did it in the door, how did u tak all the siding off? or did u just take off the stuff around the speaker? i think i need a funny looking screawdriver to take the whole thing off.. or maybe a nutdriver.. hmm.. ill have to try that .. i have to atleast get my driver door working
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