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Big Dog 
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Posted: March 26, 2007 at 7:44 AM / IP Logged  

They are using it instead of a tach wire.

They asume that if there is power on that wire it's because the engine has started: therefore the remote starter can stop cranking the engine.

What a pain in the you know what. That used to work in 1982. We're in 2007. Everything is computer controlled nowadays.

I'll see what I can find. You sure there isn't a tach input on the r-starter?

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mrcanngo 
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Posted: March 27, 2007 at 1:59 AM / IP Logged  
Sorry no tach input wire. Big dog i pm'd u in more detail about my probs.
For everyone else, i wired it up as per the instructions and i can hear the alarm system trying to crank the car, like i can hear clicking but no actual cranking from the starter or engine. My alarm says that in order for me to remote start the car i need to have it in "arm" mode. Well, when i do that and try to follow the programming instructions i trigger my alarm system as soon as i put the keys in the ignition.
Is that maybe why i can't program this bloody thing properly?
Please help...i've got over 20 wires or so at large lengths just dangling by my foot while i gotta drive to work. :(
mrcanngo 
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Posted: March 31, 2007 at 1:09 AM / IP Logged  
Can someone tell me what the Air Con wire in this wiring diagram is for? i didn't hookit up but i thought it might be used for something. Please some explain its purpose or what i could possibly use it for.
Thank you.
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mrcanngo 
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Posted: March 31, 2007 at 10:50 AM / IP Logged  

sorry this  is t he best i could do i think

here is a hotlink directly to the picture:

https://img513.imageshack.us/img513/924/myalarmqj6.jpg

fkelsey 
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Posted: March 31, 2007 at 11:20 AM / IP Logged  
It's a second ignition wire if your vehicle has more than one ignition circuit. Some cars split them up and the one ignition powers up the computer fuel pump and the airconditioner is on a different circuit.
fkelsey 
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Posted: March 31, 2007 at 11:36 AM / IP Logged  
You don't need it as a second ignition but is it able to be programmed as a second accessory. As you can see by this schematic you have two accessory wires. The difference between the ignition and accessory is that ignition stays hot through crank and accessory is hot on turn on and run and shuts off during crank.
12volts red (30A), BLACK/ red (30A)+ ignition harness
Starter gray/black   +   ignition harness     
Second Starter N/A           
Ignition GREEN/ YELLOW   +   ignition harness     
Second Ignition N/A           
Third Ignition N/A           
Accessory pink / YELLOW   +   ignition harness     
Second Accessory yellow   +   ignition harness     
Keysense RED / black   +   ignition harness     
Power Lock GREEN/ red   -   driver kick, door harness    
Power Unlock same as power lock wire           
Lock Motor yellow/black   5wi driver kick, door harness     
Unlock Motor WHITE/ black   5wi driver kick, door harness     
Parking Lights+ ORANGE / white (L), orange (R)   +   passenger kick, harness to rear     
Parking Lights- BLACK/ white   -   headlight switch     
Hazards BLACK/ orange   -   hazard switch     
Turn Signal(L) blue   +   passenger kick, harness to rear     
Turn Signal(R) blue/red   +   passenger kick, harness to rear     
Reverse Light GREEN/ orange or GREEN/ black   +   passenger kick, harness to rear     
Door Trigger see notes   -   passenger kick, harness to rear    
Dome Supervision BLACK/ blue to BLACK/ red   -   passenger kick, harness to rear     
Trunk/Hatch Pin BLACK/ red or BLACK/ blue   -   passenger kick or light in trunk     
Hood Pin BLACK / YELLOW   -   hood pin switch     
Trunk/Hatch Release N/A           
Power Sliding Door N/A           
Factory Alarm Arm BLACK/ blue   -   driver kick, door harness    
Factory Alarm Disarm BLACK/ white   -   driver kick, door harness    
Disarm No Unlock             
Tachometer NOT GREEN/ stripe   ac   any ignition coil or fuel injector     
Wait to start N/A           
Brake Wire RED / white   +   brake pedal switch     
Parking Brake BLACK/ lt. green   -   parking brake switch     
Horn Trigger black   -   horn switch     
Memory Seat 1 N/A           
Memory Seat 2 N/A           
Memory Seat 3 N/A
mrcanngo 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 12:29 AM / IP Logged  

I think this is possible but i'm not entirely sure how to do this.  What i basically want is my actuator to open and close with one push of my alarm button.  The reasoning is because i hooked up my actuator to my trunk so that it would open it up. 

Here is the problem though: The actuator "closes" which pulls the latch open and allows me to lift up the trunk but when i slam my trunk down, the trunk doesn't stay shut.

Reason: the reason it doesn't stay shut is because the motor of the actuator is to stiff that the trunk latch isn't able to pull the actuator back to the "open" position to allow my trunk to close and stay shut.

Solution: If there is a way to make my actuator move closed and than a second after go back to the opened position, this should solve my dillema.  Could someone help with showing me how to connect the some relays to do this?  I think i need 2 relays but i'm not entirely sure.  Any help would be much appreciated.  Thank you!

mrcanngo 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 12:56 AM / IP Logged  

I forgot to mention this.

Would this work for me or would this just end up burning my actuator?

Hook up 12v+ to 86 and 30

(-) output from alarm system to 85

87 and 87a get one of the wires from the actuator?

Woudl leaving a constant 12v's going to the actuator burn it out or will the actuator just not move and not care?

Thank you.

redpeppers 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 2:07 AM / IP Logged  
humm....hook like so.....85 to the negitive output from the alarm (make sure that it is not a latching output or you will have a constant negitive trigger going to your relay which will keep the trunk acuator enguaged until you re-click the alarms button again...thus you not being able to close the trunk)  86 to 12volt constant.  30 to the acuator , 87a not used, and 87 to 12volt constant.
Where theres is a wire there's a way.
mrcanngo 
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Posted: April 07, 2007 at 1:12 PM / IP Logged  
hmm..i'm not sure if thats what i want but i thought that when you energize a actuator is either closes all the way or opens all the way.
Am i wrong? Does hooking it up to a relay mak
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