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impulseballer 
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Okay guys here's what I want to accomplish.  I would like to use my reg keyless key to unlock and lock my doors.  I would then like to just get in my car and press start engine to turn the vehicle on.  I believe a RFID setup to detect a RFID like key fob with me is in the car setting a relay or something allowing the ignition to be set on with the button.  How do I bypass the igntion without having a key in it etc. and what kind of product can I use with a keyfob like RFID to achieve this. Also, I have a 2008 Caliber SRT4. Thanks in advance.

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There are many threads on here about pushbutton starts.  There isn't one "module" to buy that does everything.  People have been buying RFID units off of Ebay and trying to use them.

This type of system gets very complicated very fast.  To go completely keyless you will need to bypass your OEM electronic security (transponder or whatever you have) and bypass the mechanical wheel lock.  You'll then need to add your own secure way to control the ignition (and accessory circuit).  The starter is pretty easy if you want a "crank as long as you hold the button down" system.  To make a system that you push and release and it automatically cranks the vehicle until it starts adds even more complexity. 

It can be done (my '04 G35 is completely keyless) but it's pretty involved.  I personally designed every aspect of the system in my car - it features RFID security and two seperate microcontrollers to handle the entire process.

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actually im waiting for a response from one company who besides digital guard dawg ($400) has made such a kit.  here is there website

http://www.auto-hub.com/

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that still won't do "Everything".  You will still need a module to bypass any OEM security and you'll still need to bypass the mechanical steering wheel lock.
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why doesnt the link work?

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KPierson wrote:
that still won't do "Everything".  You will still need a module to bypass any OEM security and you'll still need to bypass the mechanical steering wheel lock.

Kevin, will your unit do "everything"?

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ckeeler wrote:

KPierson wrote:
that still won't do "Everything".  You will still need a module to bypass any OEM security and you'll still need to bypass the mechanical steering wheel lock.

Kevin, will your unit do "everything"?

It has the outputs to control external security bypasses, just like a remote start.  I used a DEI 556U to bypass my OEM security.

The mechanical steering wheel lock is mechanical, so there is no way to "control" it.  It simply has to be bypassed/eliminated.

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KPierson wrote:

It has the outputs to control external security bypasses, just like a remote start. 

smart thinking.

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Posted: May 18, 2009 at 12:53 PM / IP Logged  
KPierson wrote:
ckeeler wrote:

KPierson wrote:
that still won't do "Everything".  You will still need a module to bypass any OEM security and you'll still need to bypass the mechanical steering wheel lock.

Kevin, will your unit do "everything"?

It has the outputs to control external security bypasses, just like a remote start.  I used a DEI 556U to bypass my OEM security.

The mechanical steering wheel lock is mechanical, so there is no way to "control" it.  It simply has to be bypassed/eliminated.

how can i eliminate it? one thing i was thinking of doing was getting a spare key cut and welding it to a cap like to cover the key hole. basically if you've ever seen those little inserts you can put on the key holes your door handles?  it will bel ike that made of metal with the key welded to it.  so the key will be in the ingition with the cap.  for any reason if i need to remove it i can use a nice strong magnet to pull it out.  now that chip that's in my dodge caliber key, can i just put that near the ignition or how does that work?

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oh also, i'd rather control the doors and locks with my stock key fob so i shouldn't see a reason to bypass my security or is there?  i gotta do my research and see if i can build a relay using rfid so that it will switch power to the start engine button when my fob is in the car.
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