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installing trc zr-25 in '82 olds cutlass


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Posted: November 06, 2005 at 8:17 PM / IP Logged  
i am completely lost...
i have a 1982 oldsmobile cutlass supreme (v6 - 3.8 liter) and am trying to install a trc zr-25 remote starter with keyless entry (http://www.trc12volt.com/main-security.html). i have heard from other people who have installed their own remote starting units that wiring diagrams are available specifically for these installs. i have the chilton's manual for my car, but it is only confusing me more.
is anything more specific, or perhaps written in smaller, more idiot-friendly words available? any help would be much appreciated.
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good lluck with that one. All my wiring references only go back to 1988. Sorry I couldn't help. I tried..
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this wiring schematic is from a 1981 olds cutlass supreme

Accessory orange   +  ignition harness   
Second Accessory        
Keysense        
Power Lock lt. blue   +  either kick panel   
Power Unlock black   +  either kick panel   
Lock Motor        
Unlock Motor        
Parking Lights+ brown    light switch   
Parking Lights-        
Hazards        
Turn Signal(L)        
Turn Signal(R)        
Reverse Light        
Door Trigger white   -  under dash light   
Dome Supervision        
Trunk/Hatch Pin        
Hood Pin        
Trunk/Hatch Release black   +  trunk release switch   
Power Sliding Door        
Factory Alarm Arm        
Factory Alarm Disarm        
Disarm No Unlock        
Tachometer PURPLE / white    ignition module   
Wait to start        
Brake Wire lt. blue   +  brake switch   
Parking Brake        
Horn Trigger black   -  steering column  
Memory Seat 1        
Memory Seat 2        
Memory Seat 3        

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this wiring schematic is from a 1981 olds cutlass supreme, this will give you an idea where the wires are, but they might be a different color

12volts
red
+
ignition harness
Starterpurple + ignition harness
Second Starter
Ignitionpink + ignition harness
Second Ignition
Third Ignition
Accessoryorange + ignition harness
Second Accessory
Keysense
Power Locklt. blue + either kick panel
Power Unlockblack + either kick panel
Lock Motor
Unlock Motor
Parking Lights+brown light switch
Parking Lights-
Hazards
Turn Signal(L)
Turn Signal(R)
Reverse Light
Door Triggerwhite - under dash light
Dome Supervision
Trunk/Hatch Pin
Hood Pin
Trunk/Hatch Releaseblack + trunk release switch
Power Sliding Door
Factory Alarm Arm
Factory Alarm Disarm
Disarm No Unlock
TachometerPURPLE / white ignition module
Wait to start
Brake Wirelt. blue + brake switch
Parking Brake
Horn Triggerblack - steering column
Memory Seat 1
Memory Seat 2
Memory Seat 3

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Posted: November 07, 2005 at 12:57 AM / IP Logged  
wow... thanks a lot.
this is me being a real pain in the ass:
where are the ignition module and ignition harness?
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Here is the more interesting question.....
Is the car fuel injected?
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indeed it is not.
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Posted: November 07, 2005 at 1:26 AM / IP Logged  
another question:
"pin 6: +12v ignition input. this wire must connect to a main ignition wire at the ignition harness. this wire must show +12v when the ignition is on and while cranking the starter. the voltage must not drop when the car is starting."
does this mean the wire needs to show +12 when the key is turned to 'radio on - engine off' position, when the starter is cranking, and not when the key is out?
what about when the engine is running?
i would just assume that this is the pink wire indicated above, but the instructions say to connect to "ignition 1 output (negative) to activate external relay," which i have noted as possibly being a pink wire also, and that is confusing my situation somewhat.
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I'll start with saying that putting a remote starter into a non fuel injected car isn;'t a good idea. Most carburated cars tend to not start well when it is cold out (compared to a fuel injected vehicle), even when immaculately tuned and maintained......
If the Questioned wire requires ignition, then the wire you need will show 12V when the key is turned to on/run/crank.   It won't show voltage in the key back/radio position. On older GM's, it is pink in the ignition harness coming from the key, and will be found along the lower part of the column coming off of the ignition switch. Here you will also find the following: Purple starter, orange accessory(heater), brown accessory (radio, wipers, maybe windows, amybe not windows), and a couple red 12V all the time. Tach is white at the distributor or coil, parklights are brown at the switch, and brake is white at the brake switch at the pedal.
HTH
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Posted: November 07, 2005 at 9:28 AM / IP Logged  
i have a plan for starting the car when it's cold, unless there's any safety concern with remote starting a carburated car (like... if the worst thing that can happen is that it wont work) then i will go ahead with the install.
your colors seem to agree with my observations. if the vehicle doesnt have a tach in the dash, is there still a tach wire?
the manual seems to require a +12 ignition input, and a separate negative ignition output coming from the remote starter's external relay block (as indicated in previous 'pink wire vs pink wire' post).
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