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hondaek 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 3:52 AM / IP Logged  
hi
been lurking here for sometime. my names tony.
I have Jdm CTR power folding mirrors. i have them wired up, and working. the next thing i would like to do is wire up the open to my alarm "unlock, and close when my alarm "lock/arms".
my vehicle specs
1996 honda civic "converted to power interior
-viper 350HV with power door locks
-power door lock relay
DEI 451m pin out "convert neg to pos signal"
-Blue = 12v+
-green =12+
-white = ground
-brown = ground
-purple = fused 12v
power folding relay wire pin out
1-mirror motor A (blu/red)
2-ground (blk)
3-mirror switch (blu/yel)
4-switched power (wht/blu)
5-mirror motor B (grn/yel)
and i have the OEM jdm mirror switch
1-black yellow = goes to power folding relay 3 "mirror switch"
2-not used
3-blue/black = mirror right
4-yellow/black = mirror left
5-yellow/white = mirror right and left merged
6-blue/green = mirror right
7-yellow/red = mirror left
8-not used
9-BLACK / YELLOW = 12v in
10-black = ground
i bought 2 DEI 528t time relays, on ebay and trying to get the wiring finished up. i followed a wiring diagram some one posted but kept blowing the fuses. please some one chime in and help me :D
also i was wondering if i could run the viper 350hv AUX to the jdm mirror switch wiring? let me know thanks!
hondaek 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:01 AM / IP Logged  
can anyone help?
howie ll 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM / IP Logged  
Mistakes:
Lock relay (what make) AND a 451?
You don't need both only either and if one is a 5 wire actuator you don't need the 451.
Every a/market dedicated lock timer relay uses NEG trigger.
Hence mistake no. 2 definitely NOT converting NEG to POS, simply 5 wire.
You say relay switched power WHITE/ blue..meaning.
And switch ;
1-black yellow = goes to power folding relay 3 "mirror switch"
9-BLACK / YELLOW = 12v in
Think you should check that.
All completely confusing and illogical not auto electrics wiring as we know it Jim.
In fact the 453, the mirror relay unless it controls normal movement rather than fold and the switch aren't needed.
Just tell me the mirror fold motor wires and I'll give you an upgrade to the circuit you used. (Assume it was one of mine).
hondaek 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:29 AM / IP Logged  
My power door locks are after market 2 wire actuator. Gun style with green and blue wires. Seems like the relay "DEI 451M" converts the Viper 350hv alarm signal Neg to positive signal.
im sorry dont know who is this jim character.
howie ll 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM / IP Logged  
Jim Kirk as said by Commender Spock, a Star Trek TV series 1 catch phrase.
You said you had a lock relay, is this the 451 or separate?
Are the blue/red and GREEN/ YELLOW the fold/unfold motor wires for both mirrors?
hondaek 
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howie ll wrote:
Jim Kirk as said by Commender Spock, a Star Trek TV series 1 catch phrase.
You said you had a lock relay, is this the 451 or separate?
Are the blue/red and GREEN/ YELLOW the fold/unfold motor wires for both mirrors?
lol, Star Trek. im very slow at the moment. been trying to get this figured out -_- and no sleep.
they "cari audio place installed the alarm Viper 350HV, and from looking at it. The DEI relay is separate. if removed my door lock wont work.
blue/red and GREEN/ YELLOW the fold/unfold are the colors for the mirrors. i done s 12v test and they are reverse polarity.
hondaek 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:44 AM / IP Logged  
sorry for the weird typos.
howie ll 
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Stand by, diagrams on way.
hondaek 
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howie ll wrote:
Stand by, diagrams on way.
sweet!!! your awesome! very much appreciated and
power folding mirrors -- posted image.
hondaek 
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Posted: January 30, 2013 at 10:50 AM / IP Logged  
power folding mirrors -- posted image.
lol
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