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2004 Saturn Vue, DEI 554R


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Kev. 
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Posted: August 08, 2004 at 10:13 PM / IP Logged  
If I'm looking at the diagram you are refering to, I will need some relays? Document 1041 says I don't need these as I should be tapping into the wires before the factory relays.
Now even the door lock switches (both driver and passenger) in the doors don't do anything! I hope I didn't fry anything! I went ahead and disconnected the the lock/unlock wires from the 554R and the door swiches still don't work.
Getting worried.
Kev.
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Switch it to voltage sensing and be done with it. Or you could try one of the off color wires, learn tach and give it a try.
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Have you checked fuses for the car yet?
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Posted: August 08, 2004 at 11:50 PM / IP Logged  

Hey kev, you don't have to hook up the tach wire.  If it is a dei alarm, there is an option to either hook up the tach wire so the brain can keep tabs on the running engine, or to program the brain (with the valet switch) to keep tabs on the engine by observing voltage fluctuation.  Sometimes I use it when I'm working on a b!t@h car and either can't find the tach or it is inaccessible.  good luck

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Posted: August 08, 2004 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  

Kev,

The green and blue lock/unlock wires each send a (-) and (+) signal so you have probably sent a negative pulse to the + wire of the BCM and either blown a fuse or damaged the BCM. What the lock doument doesn't tell you is that you must have a relay (it is mentioned in the install manual).

Check to see if the BCM has a burned electrical smell to it or if you can easily access it and can get inside it, you may find a burned and separated contact on the back of the circuit board.

Double check your fuses again just to be sure - sometimes there are fuses located inside and in the engine compartment of the vehicle.

Gary  

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Posted: August 08, 2004 at 11:54 PM / IP Logged  

Kev,

The green and blue lock/unlock wires each send a (-) and (+) signal so you have probably sent a negative pulse to the + wire of the BCM and either blown a fuse or damaged the BCM. What the lock doument doesn't tell you is that you must have a relay (it is mentioned in the install manual).

Check to see if the BCM has a burned electrical smell to it or if you can easily access it and can get inside it, you may find a burned and separated contact on the back of the circuit board.

Double check your fuses again just to be sure - sometimes there are fuses located inside and in the engine compartment of the vehicle.

Gary  

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gtown installer wrote:
b!t@h
What the hell is the point of doing that? Other then showing how much of a juvenile you are? Oh, and thanks for regurgitating what I had already said.
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gtchida wrote:

The green and blue lock/unlock wires each send a (-) and (+) signal so you have probably sent a negative pulse to the + wire of the BCM and either blown a fuse or damaged the BCM. What the lock doument doesn't tell you is that you must have a relay (it is mentioned in the install manual).

Don't work with DEI much, huh? There is no problem with the switching lock wires on any vehicle that I know of. Also if you are tagging the wires between the switch and relay/bcm then you don't need relays on this vehicle.
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i am having the same problem with my crimestopper alarm in my 94 pontiac sunbird. locks fine.. won't unlock.
94 Pontiac Sunbird 3.1 V6
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robbyrob717 wrote:
i am having the same problem with my crimestopper alarm in my 94 pontiac sunbird. locks fine.. won't unlock.
You are not having the same problem, and by reading your post you probably shorted out the unlock pulse of the alarm blowing it. Take your meter or test light and see if the alarm is still sending out a pulse on unlock.
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