JL Audio Subs and Amps, is it a hype!

Yes the 3 year if installed by a professional (authorized at that). That probably is gonna cost some money (having "professional" installation) therefore you basicly pay for the extra warranty. Retail price is often most likely found, so paying anywhere around $800 for a single subwoofer? Versus 5 years regardless who installs it is definatly a sign of a company who stands by their products. As for SPL, like i said, its not goign to beat a JL Audio W7. Though, MKIII's will be PLENTY of bass for your average listener. Sound Quality wise, i have installed 2 of these... my own 12" and a single 15" in a much tougher evinroment than car audio: Home theater. With i beleive a crazy 6 cubes tuned 19Hz, the 15" MKIII was so insanely loud and hit so freakin low... I have sat in a 150dB cars and this was a totaly differant feeling. Though it still made me feel sick. And really, could anybody argue against DUMAX? I mean, Dumax basicly displays the sound of SCIENCE, and its not easy to argue science... You get what you pay for in a way... But with JL Audio, you pay for a brand name as well. MTX saposedly has their new series that is less money and will stomp on a W7 ( i know that SPL wise it will, but not SQ...). But MTX can quite frankly "Blow me" as i have yet to hear a single impressive product (subwoofer wise) from them. The Dayton MKIII is just a PRIME example of what a true SQ junkie could buy and not spend a ton of money on the W7. The W7 is just a more "Widely known" SQ sub with great SPL output (if Micheal Hughes hasnt tought us what a single W7 can do, nobody will). There is a wide range of subs that will easily compete with the high-priced W7, its just a matter of taking a look (Adire audio, RE, SoundSplinter... just to name a few). My personal favorite is Oz Audio. though they offer no sub that will "devoure" the W7, they offer subs with a great price that have insane output and over-the-top SQ. JL Audio might have the "upper hand" in the subwoofer SQ department, but are far from superior on the mids and highs. There are a lot of brands that would proudly stomp on JL's component sets. Oz Audio Matrix series is known to be one of the most compeditive in the bunch, offer the IASCA record for flattest response on the RTA. There are a lot of other brands too, such as Focal, Rainbow, CDT, Arc, Adire, etc. that offer higher end front end. But back on topic... At that price of a single W7 installed by an authorized dealer, you could afford an entire budget SQ system, complete with amps and front end, or a full out SPL system that would rock the W7s world. But i guess if you have to have both SQ and SPL in a single sub, the W7 is pretty damn hard to beat. 04 dodge neon SXT

(2) Oz Audio Matrix Elite 12"s sealed in 4 cube fiberglass enclosure, powered by HiFonics BX1605D

Oz Audio Matrix 180cs 6.5" component set power by HiFonics ZX4000

Hahaha, thats cool. As long as people are allowed opinion, you are allowed to love the W7. I have been doing car audio for years, fanaticly, and have just recently got onto this board (as CAF's server has gone down hill dramaticly, so need a new home). You would be honestly suprised if you ever decided to test-drive one of those subs... they are worth every penny. Either way ;)04 dodge neon SXT

(2) Oz Audio Matrix Elite 12"s sealed in 4 cube fiberglass enclosure, powered by HiFonics BX1605D

Oz Audio Matrix 180cs 6.5" component set power by HiFonics ZX4000

JL Audio <---- no hype, just loudTell the Snap-On guy I'm not here!

I gotta send a nod in the direction of nodestiny. The Dayton products are good gear - hell, GREAT gear for the money. I am using a pair of the Titanic (originals) in my HT as well, 2.2 cubes sealed, stuffed with one pound of Dacron, braced to within an INCH of it's life... Oh, and beat to DEATH with a pair of Adcom GFA-565 amps. F3 of 24 in a (smallish) sealed box? Give me more of that!!! Anyway, the Dayton stuff is amazing gear for the money, and he is right on about the SQ... Very musical drivers.It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

tcss, what he was referring to on page 2 was the "Stereophile Rating", not the class of operation. BTW, "old school" tube amps also came in class A/B flavors as well. I cannot think of even one pure class A amplifier today. While there are many that START as class A, their biases are adjusted to make class A power up to around 20 or possibly 50 watts (depending on the manufacturer, and the total output power) at which point they would switch to calss A/B. Actually, I can think of one pure class A amplifier: The Accuphase A-60, but you'll notice it's only a 60 watt amplifier. Not much power, but OH, MY GAWD, do they sound good. Aand the price? If ya gotta ask, you probably can't afford it... On the internet, at a DISCOUNT! Look to spend over 11 GRAND! A 100 POUND 120 watt amplifier? with a 300 watt IDLING dissipation? Holy shhhe! Anyway, there you are. Maybe not EXACTLY the answer you were looking for, or maybe more than you were looking for, but there you are...It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

 look here are the facts JL W 7 13.5 about $1000 retail JL 1000/1 $1000 retail yhats 1000 watts rms yes that is a lot of power but think about this sound stream XXX 15 $1400 retail 8500 rms power handling sound stream XXX amp 6500 RMS outputpower 1600 retail and both of these products have a 5 year warranty so think about that its a no brainer and soundstream has a full line of car audio and car video products  that are priced better than anything that even compares in quality anybody that tells you differant is wrong

 look here are the facts JL W 7 13.5 about $1000 retail JL 1000/1 $1000 retail yhats 1000 watts rms yes that is a lot of power but think about this sound stream XXX 15 $1400 retail 8500 rms power handling sound stream XXX amp 6500 RMS outputpower 1600 retail and both of these products have a 5 year warranty so think about that its a no brainer and soundstream has a full line of car audio and car video products  that are priced better than anything that even compares in quality anybody that tells you differant is wrong