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spacejunk 
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Posted: December 20, 2012 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  
So would I be correct to assume a PKALL data transponder is not needed if I am not installing a remote start in a 2013 Taoma?
Thanks!
eddiebx 
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That's right, no need for the PKALL with an alarm only install. The PKALL is for transponder bypassing which would not be required if you don't plan to bypass the transponder viper 5904 and 2013 toyota tacoma - Page 4 -- posted image.
spacejunk 
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eddiebx wrote:
That's right, no need for the PKALL with an alarm only install. The PKALL is for transponder bypassing which would not be required if you don't plan to bypass the transponder viper 5904 and 2013 toyota tacoma - Page 4 -- posted image.
That's great to hear as I drive a stick and always leave it in gear.
Thanks for the prompt response!
lucasoil4u 
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Posted: December 21, 2012 at 11:30 AM / IP Logged  
Can you tell me what a G key is?
eddiebx 
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lucasoil4u wrote:
Can you tell me what a G key is?
Look on the metal stem of your key right near the base where it connects to the plastic. There should be a little G stamped into the metal.
toytaco13 
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Can somebody confirm that I am following step by step connections and corrections for this install, and explain to my noob azz how to run the 3 relays used?From what I've gathered on how to run 1out of 3 relays is to relay  viper H2/18(-) Starter Output.So from the wiring diagram Second & Third relays go to h2/7(-) Dome Light Supervison & H2/8 (-) Honk Honk Output.For 2nd & 3rd relay, do i use seperate relays for each and same kind of relay as used for the viper H2/18??I would appreciate if someone can explain it noob style on my confusion with the relays connections, and look over my edited wiring diagram that I gathered from original Jmats post and all corrections made.Thank you in advance!

 

Viper 5904 Connections

H1/1 12v Constant – WHITE/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H1/2 ground - ground

H1/3 (+) siren – positive of siren, will this support a piezo siren as well, or should this be on a

relay?

H1/4 Parking light isolation wire – n/a

H1/5 Parking light output (relay?) – green - headlight switch, white 20 pin plug, pin 18 (Set

jumper to negative)

H1/6 Ground when Armed – not used

H2/1 Ignition/Flex Relay Control Output – n/a

H2/2 Neutral Safety Input - ground

H2/3 2nd status – n/a

H2/4 OEM Alarm Disarm Output-not used?

H2/5 Trunk release – n/a

H2/6 (-) Door Trigger input – GREEN/ YELLOW - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1F), pin 7 (will this

work for all 4 doors?)

H2/7 (-) Dome light supervision – relay- blue - dash fuse box, black 13 pin plug (1E), pin 9

H2/8 (-) Horn Honk Output – relay - GREEN/ red - dash fuse box, white 18 pin plug (1C), pin 10

H2/9 Status Output – pkall blue/white

H2/10 Ignition 1 output – n/a

H2/11 Aux 3 output - n/a

H2/12 (+) Door trigger input – n/a

H2/13 Aux 1 output - n/a

H2/14 Aux 2 output - n/a

H2/15 Aux 4 output - n/a

H2/16 (+) Brake Shutdown – blue - dash fuse box, white 13 pin plug (1D), pin 13

H2/17 (-) Hood pin input – hood pin

H2/18 (-) Starter output – relay - BLACK/ white - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 3

H2/19 (-) Trunk Pin – n/a

H2/20 Diesel Wait to start – n/a

H2/21 Turbo Timer – n/a

H2/22 (-) Accessory Output – n/a

H2/23 Tach input - BLACK/ white - data link connector, white 16 pin plug, pin 9

H2/24 (-) OEM Alarm Arm Output – purple - driver kick, gray 10 pin plug, pin 4

H3/1 (+) Ignition 1 - BLACK/ red - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 6

H3/2 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/3 (+) Accessory Output – WHITE/ green@ignition switch white 8pin plug pin2

H3/4 (+) Starter Output (car side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7

H3/5 (+) Starter Input (Key Side) - GREEN/ black - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 7

H3/6 (+) Fused Ignition 1 input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/7 (+) Ignition 2/Flex Relay Output - blue / YELLOW - ignition switch, white 8 pin plug, pin 1

H3/8 (+) Flex Relay input – n/a

H3/9 (+) Fused Accessory/Starter Input – 12v WHITE/ red - white 8 pin plug, pin 5

H3/10 – n/a

Door Lock 3 pin connector -(factory arm/disarm wires?)? what wires to what factory wires?

PKALL Connections

Connector 1 – D2D – to Viper 5904

Connector 2

PURPLE / White – Data 1 – Light GREEN/ Black- ECM Behind glove box, SPLICE into Pin 20

Yellow/Black – Data 2 – Blue/White - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, ECM Side (??)

Blue/White – Ground while running – H1/6 - blue/white Viper

Green – n/a (Keysense??)

Pink – n/a

Black – n/a

Connector 3

Light Green – Same connection as yellow/black…(??)

ORANGE / Brown – Blue/white - ECM Behind glove box, Cut wire, Car Side (??)

ORANGE / Green – n/a

Brown – n/a

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jmat72 
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Posted: January 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  
I don't do this for a living, so the details are already fuzzy for me. I did this on my cousin's truck, so I don't have it here to look at.
From what I remember, there was already some wiring done either at the factory or at the dealer for an alarm. There were already t taps on the arm/disarm wires and the door triggers. The door trigger t taps already had them diode isolated, so I didn't have to worry about that.
You need separate relays for the horn honk and the dome light. Elsewhere on the site, there are detailed descriptions on how they should be wired. But, I think earlier in the thread pretty much covered it. If they are both negative, then they would be wired the same. All of the relays are the same type.
I would also mention that cutting the wires at the ECM for the PKALL is not for the faint of heart. There are a million wires there and they are really thin gauge. On top of that, there is hardly any slack, so you can't screw up...
Jason
toytaco13 
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Posted: January 13, 2013 at 10:59 PM / IP Logged  

Do you remeber why you used a relay for the dome&honk honk?From what I've searched and seen on other similiar installs on Tacomas, no one else used relays for those two, but other post werent the same year car as ours..

jmat72 
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I used relays because I don't think the alarm outputs enough to drive the circuits.  You could try not using relays, but you could burn out the output on the alarm if the dome light/horn draw too much current.  At least that is the thought process.  Like I said, I don't do this for a living, just know enough to be dangerous..

Jason

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Posted: May 03, 2013 at 9:07 PM / IP Logged  
kreg357 wrote:

One correction so far :

H1/6 not used.  PKALL Blue/White goes to Viper H2/9.  Status Out = Ground When Running

Would this apply to a Python 574 on the same exact vehicle as well?
Cruzer
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